Idaho wolf hunt

[Chorizo]

Wardens are so low on the information and political scale as to have an equally uninformed opinion as the general public, unfortunately. His opinion only, not based detailed knowledge.

As for the "key" of proper management, I can tell you what I call proper management and what wolf lovers call proper management varies greatly.

While you may not be a wolf lover, I can also see your vision of proper management is greatly different than mine. 350-400 wolves confined to the back country, fine, over a thousand is unacceptable.

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

What is this 'Wolf Season' you speak of?

Until recently there was a wolf season from August 30th-March 31st. The F&G game keeps adding to that on either end for both hunting and trapping. Now wolves are open to hunting year 'round in Idaho I think state wide. Trapping didn't open until Nov. 15th-March 31st. Trapping season now opens now Sept. 15th -March 31st. Trapping is also open year 'round on private ground in most of the state now.
If you know this and are just being a wise guy, I hope you are wise enough to avoid the game warden. The only trouble I have ever had with the law has been Fish & Game.......it ain't a lot of fun to lose your hunting/fishing/trapping rights and pay a fine......trust me on that.

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

Wardens are so low on the information and political scale as to have an equally uninformed opinion as the general public, unfortunately. His opinion only, not based detailed knowledge.

As for the "key" of proper management, I can tell you what I call proper management and what wolf lovers call proper management varies greatly.

While you may not be a wolf lover, I can also see your vision of proper management is greatly different than mine. 350-400 wolves confined to the back country, fine, over a thousand is unacceptable.

You could not be more wrong. This game warden is the head of the Salmon regional office. He is well informed......much more so than you are. For what it's worth, I hope he is wrong. Time will tell. A 1,000 wolves state wide really is not that much. Idaho is somewhere around 2/3 public ground. A lot of square miles in this state.

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

I just looked it up....Idaho has 83,642 square miles. 1000 wolves works out to 1 wolf every 83.6 miles. We all know that they run in packs and a lot of those square miles are cities, towns and private land, but that still leaves a lot of area for them to be in. Even if you cut this down to 1 pack of 5 wolves every 40 square miles, even 20 square miles, hunting and trapping them is not that easy because they are spread out and hard to find.
We could argue this for years, but I really don't care anymore about what you think than you care about what I think. It really doesn't matter at all. I just hope they don't close the season again. Wolves have replaced all other game to me. Deer & elk are easy compared to wolves. I love the challange of it.

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

I grew up ranching sheep in Idaho. Sheep mountain out of Blackfoot Idaho was part of our summer range. One of our herders killed three black wolves the summer of 1972, long before the feds "reported" releasing wolves. We reported the kills to IDFG and they said it couldn't be possible, until we told them they were black and big. They came up and gathered the carcasses and it caused quite a stink as the feds had to fess up that they had released an experimental population in the Tetons and they had prospered and moved over the range into our sheep range.

The Legislature has done the right thing. Way too many "deep state" eco warriors in the IDFG that needed over ridden.

EDIT: Here is a local article from a conservative outlet. https://idahodispatch.com/leonardo-dicaprio-targets-new-idaho-wolf-law/

One more question.....how many wolves have you taken? Do you have any pictures to prove it, or just a lot of talk?

 

[Idgunner]

I hope it is okay to put a link in this post.

As we feared, it did not take long for the anti-hunters to get their hackles up over the new wolf rules in Idaho. I understand how ranchers and many hunters want these animals controlled better but it needed to be done as quietly as possible. The Legislature on the other hand, used a bull horn.

Idaho and Montana’s wolf slaughter must be stopped before it’s too late

Everyone should voice their outrage at the killing of the innocent.

thehill.com

 

[Treeslug]

Just got back from 3 days out hunting wolves in the Boise River Basin. There were no packs in the mid-elevation areas currently. I spoke with the camp tender of a local sheep outfit with two bands of sheep in the area and they had not seen nor heard any as of late.

There was an over abundance of coyotes in the area. All it took was one lone Wolf howl and every drainage lit up with coyotes. I was able to call several of them in and got a big male that was coming in ready to fight.

The ticks were horrendous. I had to strip down coming back to camp and hang the clothes out and spray them to get the ticks off of them and sit in camp picking any off of my body.

I will head back up to the area in September while deer and elk scouting and see if any packs have moved back in.


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Took a lickin' and kept on tickin'. I like your solar panels!

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

I hope it is okay to put a link in this post.

As we feared, it did not take long for the anti-hunters to get their hackles up over the new wolf rules in Idaho. I understand how ranchers and many hunters want these animals controlled better but it needed to be done as quietly as possible. The Legislature on the other hand, used a bull horn.

Idaho and Montana’s wolf slaughter must be stopped before it’s too late

Everyone should voice their outrage at the killing of the innocent.

thehill.com

Yep. It was a stupid move. We might lose all management again because of this. F&G had things going along just fine, adding a little at a time.

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

I hope it is okay to put a link in this post.

As we feared, it did not take long for the anti-hunters to get their hackles up over the new wolf rules in Idaho. I understand how ranchers and many hunters want these animals controlled better but it needed to be done as quietly as possible. The Legislature on the other hand, used a bull horn.

Idaho and Montana’s wolf slaughter must be stopped before it’s too late

Everyone should voice their outrage at the killing of the innocent.

thehill.com

Here we go.......
Public opinion of the uniformed is that wolves are "Majestic symbols of the wilderness that help to balance nature by ONLY eating the sick and the weak".......pure BS, but we are outnumbered 100/1.

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

Wardens are so low on the information and political scale as to have an equally uninformed opinion as the general public, unfortunately. His opinion only, not based detailed knowledge.

As for the "key" of proper management, I can tell you what I call proper management and what wolf lovers call proper management varies greatly.

While you may not be a wolf lover, I can also see your vision of proper management is greatly different than mine. 350-400 wolves confined to the back country, fine, over a thousand is unacceptable.

Does this sound good to you? It sure doesn't make me happy......
More restrictions on trapping/hunting wolves.......The state meddled where it didn't belong, now we will pay for their stupidity.

New wolf law might come back to bite Idaho

www.idahoconservation.org

 

[-WARDOG-]

Easy Muskrat. You are steering this thread in the wrong direction. Go back and read the original post.
Not everyone agrees with you and you can't force others to your point of view regardless of your post count.
Quoting a liberal animal rights article may not give your opinion credibility either.

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

Easy Muskrat. You are steering this thread in the wrong direction. Go back and read the original post.
Not everyone agrees with you and you can't force others to your point of view regardless of your post count.
Quoting a liberal animal rights article may not give your opinion credibility either.

Very true......sorry. Just frustrated is all. I'll quit posting after this one.
Hopefully nothing much will come of this. Hunting in my area has been terrible for years. If wolves get back on the protection list, it's pretty much done. Here's a picture of the hunter check station sign in Darby Montana a few years ago. Not very good odds at all. Darby is just North of us here, about 40 miles or so. It's the closest town to the North. Idaho quit posting their numbers....too dismal....

 

[Eyemakecalls2]

The Idaho Legislature, made up of farmers and ranchers, changed wolf regs this year and I fear it's a mistake. That's the job of the IDF&G. This may bring the ire of the feds down on us. It certainly will bring more enviro lawsuits.
Don't get me wrong, I would certainly love to take a wolf. I just think the Legislature stepped out of their AOR and walked over the F&G.

The F&G often are desk jockeys. The hunter and farms that are in the outdoors understand and see first hand what's going on. They are the true stewards. Not F&G. F&G hold the job title. They will outlaw the weight of a rifle instead of the caliber in question. 50BMG.

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

The F&G often are desk jockeys. The hunter and farms that are in the outdoors understand and see first hand what's going on. They are the true stewards. Not F&G. F&G hold the job title. They will outlaw the weight of a rifle instead of the caliber in question. 50BMG.

Last post, I promissed not to argue anymore, and I'll keep that promise.......but there is a lot more to this than that. Wolves are a "sensitive issue". Please think about repructions to our actions before doing anything. "Nuff said....I'm done.