Hogs on rimfire only WMA

[Doug76]

Muzzle velocity: 2550 fps
Velocity at 100 yards: 1915 fps
Muzzle energy: 245 ft/lbs
Energy at 100 yards: 138 ft/lbs
Uses: Small game, Varmits

Ammo .17 HMR CCI V-Max 17 Grain Polymer Tip Bullet 2550 fps 50 Rounds 0049

Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1530 fps
Muzzle Energy: 260 ft. lbs.
Federal Game-Shok Ammo 22 Winchester Mag Rimfire (WMR) 50 Grain

And where is your 100yd and further energy readings for the .22Mag? Leaving out vital info does not make the case partner.

 

[NCMTNBOY]

Hornady:

17 HMR® 17 gr V-MAX


Item Number 83170 Weight 0.44 lbs H.I.T.S. # (100 Yard Value) 26 Ballistic Coefficient (G1) .125 Sectional Density .155 Test Barrel Length (inches) 24

Muzzle 100 200 2550/245 1901/136 1378/72
22 WMR 30 gr V-MAX™

Item Number 83202 Weight 0.53 lbs H.I.T.S. # (100 Yard Value) 36 Ballistic Coefficient (G1) .095 Sectional Density .085 Test Barrel Length (inches) 24 Quantity 50/Bx
Muzzle 100 200 2200/322 1421/134 1002/67

Either way this is a ******* match. The 17 because of its velocity and slightly flatter flight path is easier for people to hit targets with, but I would be ashamed if I could not hit a coke can with every rifle in my safe at 100 yards. Both the 22 mag and 17 hmr are fun to shoot, there is no comparison to a centerfire. My 17 Remington throws 20gr pills at 4200 fps, but the 223 is a better overall caliber.

 

[GP Cobb]

And where is your 100yd and further energy readings for the .22Mag? Leaving out vital info does not make the case partner.

_______________________ OK
Strike the 22 WRM. I'll shoot the seventeen, yall do as ya like.
Tired of arguing and convincing.
Have a good day.

 

[Doug76]

_______________________ OK
Strike the 22 WRM. I'll shoot the seventeen, yall do as ya like.
Tired of arguing and convincing.
Have a good day.

Hmm, need to read more of this thread I reckon. Didn't know there was a heated argument going on.
But I'm with you, .17HMR over .22Mag.

 

[Doug76]

Your wrong partner, look it up. The .17 is proven to retain more energy at range. And energy is not just based on bullet weight, it's also a function of speed. The .17HMR has marginally more power at range, and is definitely flatter shooting and more accurate.

My answer was geared toward .17HMR vs .22Mag.
If by .223 you mean .223Rem, you are absolutely correct. No comparison at all.

 

[GP Cobb]

My answer was geared toward .17HMR vs .22Mag.
If by .223 you mean .223Rem, you are absolutely correct. No comparison at all.

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Thanks Doug; yea to add to the apologies, I should not have included anything but rim fire in my post.
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Since I have all three; I prefer the 17 HMR. YMMV

 

[GP Cobb]

Hornady:

17 HMR® 17 gr V-MAX


Item Number 83170 Weight 0.44 lbs H.I.T.S. # (100 Yard Value) 26 Ballistic Coefficient (G1) .125 Sectional Density .155 Test Barrel Length (inches) 24

Muzzle 100 200 2550/245 1901/136 1378/72
22 WMR 30 gr V-MAX™

Item Number 83202 Weight 0.53 lbs H.I.T.S. # (100 Yard Value) 36 Ballistic Coefficient (G1) .095 Sectional Density .085 Test Barrel Length (inches) 24 Quantity 50/Bx
Muzzle 100 200 2200/322 1421/134 1002/67

Either way this is a ******* match. The 17 because of its velocity and slightly flatter flight path is easier for people to hit targets with, but I would be ashamed if I could not hit a coke can with every rifle in my safe at 100 yards. Both the 22 mag and 17 hmr are fun to shoot, there is no comparison to a centerfire. My 17 Remington throws 20gr pills at 4200 fps, but the 223 is a better overall caliber.

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The 223 is not overall better, it's costlier and a lot noisier with more recoil. No trade off at all IMO.

 

[NCMTNBOY]

Your original post was a rimfire only area and for that discussion there is no significant difference between the 17 HMR and the 22 WMR at the ranges you are shooting hogs( with a rimfire). I have all 3 and like all three. My 22wmr in a Magnum research is just as accurate as my 17 hmr. Both guns shoot .75" at 75 yards, but the .223 has a greater variety of bullet design and weight. I shoot golf balls at 250 yards with my .223. Enjoy your 17, but if you want to reach out and touch one, at ranges beyond 150 yards , the centerfires will be the gun of choice. As I posted earlier if you like your 17 hmr you will love the 17 remington. No recoil and shoots like a laser beam for a long way.

 

[GP Cobb]

Your original post was a rimfire only area and for that discussion there is no significant difference between the 17 HMR and the 22 WMR at the ranges you are shooting hogs( with a rimfire). I have all 3 and like all three. My 22wmr in a Magnum research is just as accurate as my 17 hmr. Both guns shoot .75" at 75 yards, but the .223 has a greater variety of bullet design and weight. I shoot golf balls at 250 yards with my .223. Enjoy your 17, but if you want to reach out and touch one, at ranges beyond 150 yards , the centerfires will be the gun of choice. As I posted earlier if you like your 17 hmr you will love the 17 remington. No recoil and shoots like a laser beam for a long way.

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Thanks for the expedient reply. Guess I got one more rifle to git! Anyway; next up is to find and Mulie, an Elk or more Hoggs to hunt as we have none in KS where we are.
Have a great day there.

 

[gimp4ever]

Hi. New Here. Was Reading All This And Find That All You Missed ?????
The Remington 5mm Magnum. It Has The Flat trajectory of the 17HMR With The Knock Down Power of The 22Mag @ 100 Yrds. The Young Man Said That The WMA Was Rim Fire ONLY. There Is The 591 Clip Feed or The 592 Tube Feed. Thank You and God Bless

 

[NCMTNBOY]

I hunt a WMA close to my house that has loads of hogs on it but its rimfire only. I have a 17 hmr and 22 lr but im about to buy a 22 mag to hunt these hogs. Looking for the best possible bullet in 22 mag to hunt them with and have found 50 grain bullets but if i recall they were hollow points. Would these work or would i be better of with maxi mags in like 40 grain soft points or tmj

Here is the original post. He has a 17hmr , 22lr and is buying a 22mag. He didn't ask is there a better rimfire(5mm). At rimfire range, I do not see a significant difference, but we all recommended a center fire as a better solution. Having said that I would never talk someone out of buying another gun .

 

[J E Custom]

In my opinion ALL 22 calibers are to small. But with that said, you have to shoot them in the head
if you don't want to track/lose them so it really only matters what bullet you use.

I recommend the CCI 20 grain FMJs for the 17 HMR and 35 to 40 grain bullets for the 22 WMR
(No Hollow point).

Just my opinion

J E CUSTOM

 

[idaho elk hunter]

If you are going to do a rimfire you need penetration.

All of this talking numbers and quoting books is hilarious to me. WOW, we are talking rimfires. SO HERE IS THE REAL TRUTH. Shoot the hog in the head and kill it with what you desire, There is not that much difference. We are not comparing a 243 to a 500 nitro!
Here is a idea .Use a 22 mag in a semi auto Ruger and shoot it more than once if needed?
We are not comparing bullet drop or several hundred pounds of killing capability at longer ranges. You all are splitting hairs.

 

[gimp4ever]

Thank You. I Enjoyed all The Replies. One Should Try All Three.!! Thank You and God Bless