bigngreen
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Look at the pic with the bases flush against against each other, same length, I'll walk back out and see if I can get a repeatable measurement.
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Hammer bullets WTH
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Yes, I have the same pack of tips and installation block that was sent with them.
Here's a quote from their website:
"Hammer HHT™ is our line of polymer tipped bullets. After a year of extensive testing on animals around the world for proper terminal performance, we launched the line of HHT's summer of 2023. The Hammer HHT™ has proven to be our most effective hunting bullet yet. This is saying something since we set the standard with our previous lines of bullets. Along with improved terminal performance they add some additional ballistic coefficient as well as protection of the meplat from accidental damage from rough handling of ammunition in the field, that could cause poor terminal performance. The added durability and stellar terminal performance are all the reasons needed to upgrade your ammunition to the Hammer HHT® line of bullets."
So I don't see anything that says they're intended to be used either with or without. What is implied from that quote above, and any page of any specific HHT, is that you install the tips yourself and use them with the tips.
Again, sure you could absolutely shoot them without them and I know some do. That doesn't mean that was the intent though.
adam32+P
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Is it just me or does the actual bullet look different? Length, ogive shape and definitely the color of the copper is different
bigngreen
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It's just the pic and lighting, I tried to get it all lined up perfect so the pic was representing it correctly but just wasn't happening, all the pics looked odd vs with your eye.Is it just me or does the actual bullet look different? Length, ogive shape and definitely the color of the copper is different
I can round Robin shoot these into the same group at a mile, their the same.
FireFlyFishing
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Seems like a series of gel tests at different velocities would help show issues, yes?
I've seen some comparative tests from @fordy in video format, done on animals. You can definitely see a difference. Too bad you can't upload videos on here easily.
bigngreen
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It would give you comparative data, you have to go shoot a sample size of game animals to compare to the gel. Also you'd have to shoot long range not just down load which messes up rotational speed at impact throwing off things. At this point the larger body of data data seems to see the same things happening as it did before, issues seems localized.
Go old school, tightly wound stacks of dry phone books
Videos are in the works
You can get a similar effect of long range with a short barrel and fast twist barrel. For example, for certain 30cal tests, you could use a really short barreled 300 Blackout and a 1:6 twist or faster barrel to get low MV but still a high RPM. I've done it.
IIRC, some are using 1:3' in 8.6 BO.
Gday Adam on this post of yours Sorry to put theIs it just me or does the actual bullet look different? Length, ogive shape and definitely the color of the copper is different
emoji up as it may have confused so hopefully this explains on some pills you are 100% correct yet I've been told they are the same
Cheers
