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<blockquote data-quote="DartonJager" data-source="post: 1589009" data-attributes="member: 95733"><p>A wise old man once told me:</p><p>"Locks, they keep an honest man honest and a their a theif". As has already been stated repeatedly if thieves want your belongings they will get them. Having worked as a highly skilled craftsman in the building trades for over 20 yeasrs I have a surprising amount of experience with witnessing the aftermath of both amature and highly skilled thieves ploying thier trades. And trust me when I say the harder it is to steal your valuables, more often than not the greater the skill set needed to do it. My friends in law enforcement have told me both poor and accomplished thieves alike hate spending one second longer in a residence or place of business than absolutely needed as it increases their odds of getting caught. This fact per my LEO friends is usually proportional to the skill level of the thieves.</p><p>Having said that there is always the wild card if nut job thieves like the ones on a CTA train station job I was on in a less than ideal suburb of Chicago that tride to cut then steal some very large diameter copper cable we had run exposed for temporary power that they mistakenly tried to cut all 3 phases at once and were rewarded with suffering a significant arcflash incident and exposure to temps at or above 30k*F.</p><p>In other words make it as hard as you can afford for your valuables to be stolen in the first place should reduce your odds of suffering a serious loss.</p><p>My belief is your best to use a multi layered defence system and at least two different types of alarms that at least one of which the thieves can't know about and neutralize prior to braking in are a great option. It's an easy matter to pull up a how to video on YouTube and install a alarm system that once armed can only be disabled after being tripped and you have only a few seconds to do so before a ear shattering alarm sounds that will alert your neighbors that will convince those that have tripped it to make as hasty a departure as is possible. Visable Externally mounted cameras either real or fake are a very affordable excellent theft detergent also. Again YouTube has countless videos on DIY installs of surveillance cameras for you home both hidden and visible and good quality surveillance camera kits are very affordable.</p><p>Bottom line is unless a thief knows for certain the pay day equals the risk they will likely bypass a hard target in favor of a softer one. They see a moderately priced home with a alarm service, security cameras AND a decent sized dog they will likely move on to a softer target.</p><p>I live in a surprisingly low crime small town considering it's close proximity to certain not so low crime areas and home invasion are thankfully dtill very rare . Last summer on a walk with my boys and my dog I was surprised at the number of homes that had security cameras just on the few blocks we walked on the way to a great park near my home. Counted five homes including my neighbor just on my side of the street. So people putting up security cameras is getting to be common place these days, meaning doing so IMHO wouldn't scream to thieves casing your home that your house is a treasure trove of valuables and a payday worth the risk. Soon after I moved in I went about hardening my house. IS it impregnable? No such thing but it's alot harder to get into now than when I moved in.</p><p></p><p>I still think a large intimidating dog is the best most cost effective theft deterrent for the average household there is. A 100-150 pound dog who's intimidating barks greet any at your doorstep with thoughts of larceny beats the hell out of any safe that weighs 8-10× as much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DartonJager, post: 1589009, member: 95733"] A wise old man once told me: "Locks, they keep an honest man honest and a their a theif". As has already been stated repeatedly if thieves want your belongings they will get them. Having worked as a highly skilled craftsman in the building trades for over 20 yeasrs I have a surprising amount of experience with witnessing the aftermath of both amature and highly skilled thieves ploying thier trades. And trust me when I say the harder it is to steal your valuables, more often than not the greater the skill set needed to do it. My friends in law enforcement have told me both poor and accomplished thieves alike hate spending one second longer in a residence or place of business than absolutely needed as it increases their odds of getting caught. This fact per my LEO friends is usually proportional to the skill level of the thieves. Having said that there is always the wild card if nut job thieves like the ones on a CTA train station job I was on in a less than ideal suburb of Chicago that tride to cut then steal some very large diameter copper cable we had run exposed for temporary power that they mistakenly tried to cut all 3 phases at once and were rewarded with suffering a significant arcflash incident and exposure to temps at or above 30k*F. In other words make it as hard as you can afford for your valuables to be stolen in the first place should reduce your odds of suffering a serious loss. My belief is your best to use a multi layered defence system and at least two different types of alarms that at least one of which the thieves can't know about and neutralize prior to braking in are a great option. It's an easy matter to pull up a how to video on YouTube and install a alarm system that once armed can only be disabled after being tripped and you have only a few seconds to do so before a ear shattering alarm sounds that will alert your neighbors that will convince those that have tripped it to make as hasty a departure as is possible. Visable Externally mounted cameras either real or fake are a very affordable excellent theft detergent also. Again YouTube has countless videos on DIY installs of surveillance cameras for you home both hidden and visible and good quality surveillance camera kits are very affordable. Bottom line is unless a thief knows for certain the pay day equals the risk they will likely bypass a hard target in favor of a softer one. They see a moderately priced home with a alarm service, security cameras AND a decent sized dog they will likely move on to a softer target. I live in a surprisingly low crime small town considering it's close proximity to certain not so low crime areas and home invasion are thankfully dtill very rare . Last summer on a walk with my boys and my dog I was surprised at the number of homes that had security cameras just on the few blocks we walked on the way to a great park near my home. Counted five homes including my neighbor just on my side of the street. So people putting up security cameras is getting to be common place these days, meaning doing so IMHO wouldn't scream to thieves casing your home that your house is a treasure trove of valuables and a payday worth the risk. Soon after I moved in I went about hardening my house. IS it impregnable? No such thing but it's alot harder to get into now than when I moved in. I still think a large intimidating dog is the best most cost effective theft deterrent for the average household there is. A 100-150 pound dog who's intimidating barks greet any at your doorstep with thoughts of larceny beats the hell out of any safe that weighs 8-10× as much. [/QUOTE]
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