AlaskaIsGodsCountry
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Hi
I need some guidance and advise from the members of this group. You guys have so much more experience then I do and I am kind of lost. Any help will be appreciated.
Here is my situation. My current hunting scope, which is a S&B Klassik 4-16x50 w/ A8 heavy duplex reticle is too coarse for long range shooting/hunting in my opinion. I have one heck of a time trying to shoot basketball size targets (assumed vital zone area for big game) at long range with it because it completey covers up the target. My long range (which I am embarrased to say with the experience presented on this board) is 500-600 yards. I'm strictly a backpack/ off the beaten path hunter, so a lightweight setup is important. I also don't particularly like a cluttered reticle...standard duplex or maybe a simple mill dot is okay. I don't like any of the gen x reticles with wind holds and etc that only work at a fixed power.
So, I want to upgrade from the stone age and look at getting another scope with finer crosshairs and perhaps a ballistic turret to mechanically change the point of impact to take some of the guess work out of those longer range shots.
I am considering the following two scopes as replacement. Both have the ballsitic turret capability.
1. S&B 4-16x50 Precision Hunter with P3 Mill Dot Recticle (FFP
2. Zeiss Victory Diavari 4-16x50 T* FL with duplex Rectile (SFP)
I want to be able to mechanically change the point of impact to say a max of 700 yards. With my ballistics I get the following results assuming a 300 yard zero and a 0 MOA base
Range Drop(in) Drop(MOA)
400 -8.5 -2
500 -22.5 -4.3
600 -43.1 -6.9
700 -71.2 -9.7
What do you guys think?
Thanks in advance for your opinions.
I need some guidance and advise from the members of this group. You guys have so much more experience then I do and I am kind of lost. Any help will be appreciated.
Here is my situation. My current hunting scope, which is a S&B Klassik 4-16x50 w/ A8 heavy duplex reticle is too coarse for long range shooting/hunting in my opinion. I have one heck of a time trying to shoot basketball size targets (assumed vital zone area for big game) at long range with it because it completey covers up the target. My long range (which I am embarrased to say with the experience presented on this board) is 500-600 yards. I'm strictly a backpack/ off the beaten path hunter, so a lightweight setup is important. I also don't particularly like a cluttered reticle...standard duplex or maybe a simple mill dot is okay. I don't like any of the gen x reticles with wind holds and etc that only work at a fixed power.
So, I want to upgrade from the stone age and look at getting another scope with finer crosshairs and perhaps a ballistic turret to mechanically change the point of impact to take some of the guess work out of those longer range shots.
I am considering the following two scopes as replacement. Both have the ballsitic turret capability.
1. S&B 4-16x50 Precision Hunter with P3 Mill Dot Recticle (FFP
2. Zeiss Victory Diavari 4-16x50 T* FL with duplex Rectile (SFP)
I want to be able to mechanically change the point of impact to say a max of 700 yards. With my ballistics I get the following results assuming a 300 yard zero and a 0 MOA base
Range Drop(in) Drop(MOA)
400 -8.5 -2
500 -22.5 -4.3
600 -43.1 -6.9
700 -71.2 -9.7
What do you guys think?
- Based on the data above, will either the two scopes options listed above be able to mechanically adjust to this range?
- Would you guys recommend I change to a canted base such as 10 or 20 MOA to increase the effective range?
- Also what is your impression with the S&B P3 mill dot reticle. Is it too coarse as well?
- Do I just bite the bullet and go with a S&B PHII scope, but I don't want to add another 1/2 -1 lb to my rifle (defeats the purpose of having a lightweight mountain hunting rifle and I don't ever plan on shooting out past 700 yards in an hunting evironment). This could be overkill for my application
- What you you do if given the options above?
Thanks in advance for your opinions.