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For my brother what caliber

I would suggest a Mauser 18.I think they are about the best rifle for the money.Eurooptics has them starting at $399.99 to about $459.99 depending on caliber.The Triggers are fantastic and I was able to set mine at 2 pounds 4 oz.no problem.Shoots well below 1" at 100 yards.Check out the link below.
 
No one is saying he is a sissy but he did say money was an issue. Unless you have a money tree growing in the back yard, the new, obsolete and magnum calibers are NOT cheap to feed! Before you buy go to Outdoor Limited, Midway or some other web sight and look at ammo prices and availability. Then decide. It doesn't matter how good a deal you get on the gun if you can't afford to shoot it.
 
A 32 Win Special has a real crappy Rate of Twist...It was designed for BP. So after a few hundred rounds the barrel is shot. I do like the old Winchester 94 (pre WW2) but would look for one in 30-30.I still see a lot of these being used in New England.
I had it in a '94 model and it shot just fine.. :) Hit hard too - 170 grain - round nose. But I was not suggesting it for now - but rather Brownings' new .30.06 - lever action - take down model.
 
I'd Biden wins this election I think the ARs are history. Even though less than 5% of gun deaths are from assault rifles the Dems just hate the black gun. I love the Ar myself. Used it in the military and use it now. Anyone with a little common sense and a few tools can do all kinds of wonderfull on them. The 6.5 Grendel is a little over achiever but for a pure hunting ar I would do an ar10. Then the 243, 6.5 Creed, 7mm-08, 260rem, 308 and 338fed are all on the table. Plus some other big bore options. It's definitely one gun can do it all.
Shep
 
.30-06 is a good hunting round for just about everything up to elk. Ammo is available, not overpopular where you can't find ammo, and has ability to shoot light or heavy bullets. It also retains more energy down range that the .308 given slightly higher velocities. I have a used, pretty much new, .30-06 winchester model 70 featherweight ($899 at cabelas) that I'm selling for $650. It does include a picatinny rail on top so all that's needed would be a scope and rings. Shoot me a message if your interested.
Use a 200 to even a 220 grain bullet for Elk - and it works just fine.
 
If he likes lever action don't forget the Savage 99. One of the most beautiful guns made. Savage is 20 miles away from me and the 3d gun I bought as a youth was a Savage 99 in 300 Savage. Trouble is the gun is so beautiful I only take it out to look at it and admire the craftsmanship. The 300 Savage will do anything a .308 will do and is very close to a 30-06. By the way the gun is not politically sensitive having the Indian headdress on it.
That was probably the 3rd most popular deer hunting rifle when I was growing up in Oregon in the 50's and early 60's - with the ole 30-30 the most popular - 30.06 second and 99 Savage the 3rd.
 
6.5 Creed will kill anything in the lower 48. Light recoil. Tons of ammo. Very accurate with factory ammo. If you think it's too small ask Southern precision rifles how many elk they dropped in their tracks on their last hunt. It has a huge following for a reason. It just plain gets it done. All the haters are guys that have never owned or shot one. Pick up a used Tikka t3 and he will have a heck of a good starter rifle.
Shep
Everyone swears by the 6.5 creed and discounts the 260 rem. Esp if you reload it has better performance.
 
The nice thing about Tikkas is that they are super smooth running. There is pretty good aftermarket support. You can buy prefit barrels. There are great stock options. So later he can build a great semi custom from it. As far as accuracy goes they are probably the most accurate rifles out of the box I have seen. Yes you can do the same with a Rem 700 and Savage. But out of the box if drop my money on a Tikka.
Shep
 
Yes the 260 can out run the Creed by a little bit but the Creed case design is far superior. 30° shoulder, longer neck and less taper in the body plus it's shorter so you don't have to put bullet down in the powder area. Go to any gun shop and look at the selection of ammo for the 260 compared to the Creed. No comparison. If you already own a 260 do you need a Creed. Nope. But if your getting something new the Creed makes more sense over the 260.
Shep
 
Hello all I'm asking this to better help my brother he is looking to buy his first rifle which will be for huntin white tail and maybe bear if hes able.hes not sure what caliber or rifle to go with and what I've recommended to him hes not sure on yet.hes looking at couple different rifles but he is on a tight budget of 500 just for rife but me and my dad will help with little more cash if he finds something he really wants.the caliber he is most interested in is different 6.5 cal,,270 win and maybe 308.he has shot and hunted with either my dads 308 or 30-06,270 or 50 cal muzzleloader.he wants to have his own rifle he is 17 right now and I'm not sure how he is on recoil any help would be greatly appreciated thanks

Hard to go wrong with a 7mm-08. Having said that, if it were me I'd build/buy him a 308. For a beginner, a 308 will kill deer @ 500 yards and out to 800 yrds dependably. I'm not a prep-er or dooms-dayer but today, as always, your first rifle should be something capable of multi use. (Hunting, shooting and self defense) That is not to say a 7/08 or 6.5 Crede is not. Its simply that the availability of shooting, hunting and match ammo for a 308 is unmatched. Even now, with ammo almost non existent, 556 and 308 ammo and components can be found.

I built my son a 7/08 because he wanted one. It was not his first gun. Any of the above are solid choices
 
I would suggest a 280 Remington, I have one in a mountain rifle and recoil is mild. My other low recoil rifles are more noticeable , 308 win , 270 win and 300 wsm. In the future he could ream it out to 280 AI and for reloading it can reach its potential. Try for a twist rate of 1:9 and he should have all the rifle he needs. It can handle varmints to moose and be pleasant to shot , without sacrificing power.
 
Hello all I'm asking this to better help my brother he is looking to buy his first rifle which will be for huntin white tail and maybe bear if hes able.hes not sure what caliber or rifle to go with and what I've recommended to him hes not sure on yet.hes looking at couple different rifles but he is on a tight budget of 500 just for rife but me and my dad will help with little more cash if he finds something he really wants.the caliber he is most interested in is different 6.5 cal,,270 win and maybe 308.he has shot and hunted with either my dads 308 or 30-06,270 or 50 cal muzzleloader.he wants to have his own rifle he is 17 right now and I'm not sure how he is on recoil any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
Hello all I'm asking this to better help my brother he is looking to buy his first rifle which will be for huntin white tail and maybe bear if hes able.hes not sure what caliber or rifle to go with and what I've recommended to him hes not sure on yet.hes looking at couple different rifles but he is on a tight budget of 500 just for rife but me and my dad will help with little more cash if he finds something he really wants.the caliber he is most interested in is different 6.5 cal,,270 win and maybe 308.he has shot and hunted with either my dads 308 or 30-06,270 or 50 cal muzzleloader.he wants to have his own rifle he is 17 right now and I'm not sure how he is on recoil any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
 
Hard to go wrong with a 7mm-08. Having said that, if it were me I'd build/buy him a 308. For a beginner, a 308 will kill deer @ 500 yards and out to 800 yrds dependably. I'm not a prep-er or dooms-dayer but today, as always, your first rifle should be something capable of multi use. (Hunting, shooting and self defense) That is not to say a 7/08 or 6.5 Crede is not. Its simply that the availability of shooting, hunting and match ammo for a 308 is unmatched. Even now, with ammo almost non existent, 556 and 308 ammo and components can be found.

I built my son a 7/08 because he wanted one. It was not his first gun. Any of the above are solid choices
The 7mm-08 is a great choice. I have used it for caribou, moose and black bear. It's a round that I find delivers every time..
 
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