Fixed Power Scopes

[hybridfiat]

Nice one Truckdriver.
I keep my loads to around 47,000psi (theoretically) because it's a Martini Enfield. So I wouldn't see the kind of performance you get from your fully stoked .35 W.
Mind you as the rifle only weighs about 7lbs a full house 225gn would find me hitching a lift home from the next shire

 

[truck driver]

I don't know for sure what my M700 classic weighs with the scope sitting on top. probably around 8.5lbs maybe 9lbs.
The Martini action is a nice one but I prefer a more modern Ruger #1 so I could get the full potential out of it. or is it just too light weight for the recoil?

 

[hybridfiat]

The Martini is a bit light, deliberately so as I don't like lugging heavy rifles through the bush and it has to 'point' quickly in New Zealand scrub. So the recoil is stout but not uncomfortable. Despite the long barrel the short action reduces overall length and makes it easy to swing in close bush.
Even with modest loads it's hitting power is more than adequate for what I'm likely to come across, Red, Sika, Fallow, Roe and Wapiti. It delivers more oomph than a 308.
I've put a 6.5x54R barrel together for hunting in areas where long shots are more likely than short. Together they should cover my immediate needs in NZ.
Perhaps Ill go for a repeater some time in the future but for now I'm going with the SS. At least I know a solid hit with a 200gn Hornady FX is going to make quite an impression.

 

[truck driver]

The old 200gr Hornady will get the job done and with out breaking the wallet.

 

[Cold Trigger Finger]

Another vote for the SWFA SS Classic scopes. I wanted the 6×42 but they sent the 10×42 . " what can I say, a Yankee talking to a Texan. " Something must have got.lost in the translation . But I really Really REALLY!!! Like this scope. As its on my 6.5 Creedmoor it is fine. But I will put the 6×42 mil quad on the rifle for fur season.
As far as toughness the scope is 50 BMG rated. Optically it is like or better than a Leupold VX 3 or Burris Signature Select. . Mine is the mil dot reticle with. 25 moa knobs. I to wish they also made a 4 x. But it is the best bang for anywhere close to the bucks out there for rifle scopes.

Truck driver; I have no idea what quick load says. But with a 22" barrel I don't see 2700 fps with a 250 gr bullet from the 35 Whelan. . 2500 fps. Maybe 2600 fps but not 2700. And 2700 would be pushing a 225 gr real fast. The thing is, 2700 fps with a 225 gr 35 caliber bullet is pretty awesome.

 

[Bravo 4]

400yds is a hell of a long way for a .35 Whelen. The .35 projectiles are usually designed for short to medium range and slower velocities than something like the .300 Win Mag for example. The drop would become dramatic after 250yds.

Yep! Try 400 yards with a subsonic .510 caliber. Close to 200" of drop with a 100yard zero.

 

[truck driver]

Another vote for the SWFA SS Classic scopes. I wanted the 6×42 but they sent the 10×42 . " what can I say, a Yankee talking to a Texan. " Something must have got.lost in the translation . But I really Really REALLY!!! Like this scope. As its on my 6.5 Creedmoor it is fine. But I will put the 6×42 mil quad on the rifle for fur season.
As far as toughness the scope is 50 BMG rated. Optically it is like or better than a Leupold VX 3 or Burris Signature Select. . Mine is the mil dot reticle with. 25 moa knobs. I to wish they also made a 4 x. But it is the best bang for anywhere close to the bucks out there for rifle scopes.

Truck driver; I have no idea what quick load says. But with a 22" barrel I don't see 2700 fps with a 250 gr bullet from the 35 Whelan. . 2500 fps. Maybe 2600 fps but not 2700. And 2700 would be pushing a 225 gr real fast. The thing is, 2700 fps with a 225 gr 35 caliber bullet is pretty awesome.

I know what you mean. So many people underestimate the the 35 Whelen because it has been down loaded to accommodate weak actions for so long it has become a red headed step child that is looking for recognition. The shooting public has been magnum-sized by the all knowing gun rags for so long that the standard cartridges are over looked an get a turned up nose when mentioned.
In a Remington CDL with 24" barrel they can be amazing. The Remington has a long throat and allows for higher pressure that most rifles don't have, similar to Weatherby.
But I'm not here to convince any one any differently about an old cartridge that just keeps getting the job done. My Remington is a Classic with 22" barrel and I don't expect to get the top end velocities that the 24" CDL gets.
After looking for something to fill my needs I saw the new Vortex Diamond Back HP series scopes and picked one up in 3-13X42 for my needs.
Thanks for all the help.

 

[Cold Trigger Finger]

I was talking with a guy up here that has the 22" barreled SS M77 Hawkeye. Tho its advertised with a 16" twist , his in fact has a 1/12" . He is shooting the 310 gr Woodliegh Weld Core at a bit over 2300 fps. The rifle and load has taken both large brown bear and big moose with 1 shot each. Pile drove both. !! Of course Ruger in their great wisdom is currently Not producing the rifle .
I would like to try the 280 gr Swift A Frame from one. I would much prefer that rifle in 35 Whelan to the 338 RCM which of course it is currently made in.

 

[truck driver]

I had also read where the Ruger 77 Hawkeye had a 1-14 twist. You can get near magnum velocities with the Remington chambers even with the 1-16 twist and the 250gr stabilizes very nicely with that twist. Some are shooting the 280gr bullets threw the Remington's also with now problems. The Ruger Hawkeyes can be found in 35 Whelen if you look around.

 

[Boman]

I ran the Leupold FX3 6x42 on my dedicated elk rifle. I ordered it through the custom shop and added a M1 knob and choose the lrdot reticle. The dots took me to 500 with my .340wby from there I could dial. Absolutely loved the setup for elk.

 

[Cold Trigger Finger]

Sounds like a good setup Boman. I'm getting ready to order the fixed 6×42 mil quad SWFA SS Classic scope.

Truck Driver ; I mentioned the Hawkeye because when they first came out I was pretty eager for one. Then I read on the Ruger website that they had a slow twist so I totally forgot about them. Now that I find they have a nice reasonable twist they are going for pushing $900 . I can get a 416 Ruger Guide Rifle for that.

 

[Boman]

Cold trigger finger, it is a great setup. I forgot to mention that the Leupy has lots of eye relief almost 4 inches. When I was shopping the thing I didnt like about the s&b and swaro was limited eye relief. I've heard good things on the swfa scope. Should be real nice

 

[Cold Trigger Finger]

Yes, they have 4" of eye relief also . I know a guy here that has a Leup 6× 40/42 ? With the mil dot and tac turrets. He really likes it and has been shooting it for a long time.
He's kinda tough on his scopes and it has held up. The 340 is a great round and one that I would like to have but I need to not get too many medium bores. For up here its real easy to go a overboard on the 338 thru 375 caliber rifles.
If I could have found a magnum length Model 70 action in stainless back when I started with the 338 Win Mag s in SS Ruger's I would have built a 340. It is a very well respected round up here and will get enough more velocity with the heavy bullets to make it very worth while.

 

[HarryN]

Hi, do you think that the 3.5 inches of eye relief on the 6 x scope is enough for a 416 weatherby ?

SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope

I am a little worried about the notorious scope - eye brow damage.

Thanks

Harry