Federal TLR and Trophy Bonded Tip

[Arken7mm]

Are there any differences between the Federal XM556SBCT3 (FBIT3) vs the Trophy Bonded Tip (TBT) or are they the same just marketed differently by Federal in different packaging? I know the FBIT3 is loaded in 223/556 with great results for law enforcement.

If they are different, which one would be superior for hunting - deer, caribou, elk, moose for broadside behind the shoulder lung shots and quicker kills, more expansion and more energy dump in the animal?

 

[comfisherman]

62 grain ammo referenced is a essentially a tbbc but tiny, shooters pro shop and a few other places had those over the last few years. Bought a couple bags to stuff in some 22 cal hotrods that didn't have the twist to handle 75s. Haven't had the chance to try them on game as they are rifles on the third string of the roster. Trophy bonded tip is a thick base bonded lead core design like the tbbc but with a plastic tip and a bit more streamlined design.

On your thread aren't you looking for non lead bullets?

 

[Arken7mm]

62 grain ammo referenced is a essentially a tbbc but tiny, shooters pro shop and a few other places had those over the last few years. Bought a couple bags to stuff in some 22 cal hotrods that didn't have the twist to handle 75s. Haven't had the chance to try them on game as they are rifles on the third string of the roster. Trophy bonded tip is a thick base bonded lead core design like the tbbc but with a plastic tip and a bit more streamlined design.

On your thread aren't you looking for non lead bullets?

Yes, but I'm also looking for the best expanding bullet in lead as well. I'm trying to compile as much data as possible on expanding lead vs copper/brass. I'm specifically wanting to compare expanding lead vs fragmenting mono-metals that shed petals and which one offers quicker kills on game.

 

[Pdvdh]

I've shot blacktail deer on Kodiak with the 62gr TBBCs, loaded in a 223 to around 2700fps. Deadly on behind shoulder lung shots within 200yds.

I purposely loaded them to medium pressures and MVs in my 233, to reduce meat damage.

 

[comfisherman]

That's what I loaded them up for... but let's be honest our island deer aren't exactly monster montana muleys. Black tail is a different story than a timber bull elk or a moose, defining "best bullet" is a tough one to quantify.

My personal preference is a controlled expansion usually bonded bullet driven to a speed to put my target in its optimum expansion fps range. The hope being that better designed bullets have a broader impact velocity range. Getting consensus on what bullet does that is like getting consensus on politics, what truck is best or what makes a good looking woman.

Cursory glance at my reloading shelf suggests I'm all in on accubonds, hornady eldx, and partitions.

 

[Raudy707]

About a year ago I picked up 500 CT 150 grain 277 cal trophy bonded tipped. Figured I'd load up some for my son to try on mule deer and elk. Ended up using 59 grains of Rldr 26 and getting .68 inch groups at 100 and 3012 fps avg out of my old Sako L61. Shot it out to 400 yds and the BC is .470 according to my drops. .9-1.0 moa accuracy. Not a match bullet by any means but man it's super impressive on game animals. We've shot antelope, pigs, bear, elk, deer and coyotes. Will usually punch right through everything you put in its path. Really nice wound channels. Recovered 1 from an elk that went almost the whole length and lodged in the hip. Perfect textbook mushroom. Idk why these aren't more popular? Haven't shot the TLR but I'm pretty hooked on the old models