"european turret" vs moa

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MCRANCH does not really mean "cant", he means "slope" for a Picatinny base or a one-piece scope mount. For example on my Ruger Precision Rifle I use for long range competition I have BOTH a 20 MOA slope n my Picatinny rail and the Nightforce Unimount. That's a total of 40 MOA for extreme long range shooting so I do not have to use up all my vertical turret adjustment.

Cant is the amount of lean, left or right, you make to the rifle when shooting. This lean throws your bullet left if you lean right and vice-versa.

Eric B.

I don't think he's asking for how anti-cant indicator works. He's asking why would he need a 20 MOA base when a Vortex Razor has a total elevation adjustment of 125 MOA.

I was looking on line at the Vottex Razor, it said 125 elevation and 125 windage. If it takes 45 moa to achieve 800 yards then would this scope require a 20 cant to achieve that yardage? Confused thanks for any input.Also new to this sight.

Cant is also used in describing the angular relationship of how the scope is mounted in relation to the barrel ...

A 20MOA base is canted down in the front toward the barrel. By canting the base down in the front, this is what allows for more usable elevation adjustment in the scope. (20MOA Explained - Warne Scope Mounts)

On either case, it's best not to hijack this thread.

My sincere apologies to Lievois if I strayed you off course.

Cheers!

 

[Mcranch1242]

Hello!
I am totally new to this forum and I seek a bit of info:
I have european scopes (swar / zeiss..) witch state for example:
1cm/100m per click. can I presume that the elevation per click evolves
further like 1,5cm/150m per click - 2cm/200m pc - 3cm/300m pc - 0,5cm/50m pc....
and calculate thus the amount of clicks needed to compensate for the drop of the bullet
at a given distance?

For example: zeroed at 100m my bullet drops 39cm at 300m
the turret says 1cm/100m
Is it correct to adjust 13 clicks up?
(3cm/300m pc for 39cm = 13?)

In short: How does the clicks work on a european scope?


Thanks in advance!

Filip
Belgium

Filip, I do apologies for as it was put! hijacked your thread. But I wanted to say that I googled info from YouTube and it was explaining Mil vs Moa, i don't pretend to understand the turret on Euro vs Moa. I'm new to this site and trying to navigate has been a learning experience. One Mil is 1/10 or .36!at 100 yard. One Moa at 100 is 1.047. But gain I don't begin to understand Euro measurements. Sorry for the Hijack.

 

[edward hogan]

MIL-Radian is 3.6" at 100yds.... 1/10mil is .36"

Does your MOA reticle actually move at the correct fractional value? 1/4moa = .262 1/8moa = .131

Probably NOT.


A Euro turret is often 1 cm per click at 100 meters 2.54cm = 1"


Probably the Mil-Radian system is easiest understood and most consistently easiest to employ in the field.

If you are trying to get precision bullet placements and not doing the complex moa fractional conversions, at significant distance with low BC or low velocity bullets; you're gonna be off. Shooting a .308win sighted in at 100yds which has 360" drop at 800yds would mean 45moa: IF moa was 1" at 100, but it's not...

Fractions matter at all distances. One less decimal place to convert to if you are using Mil-Rad.

Does it matter on hunting scope on large game animal target? Probably not... If you are a meat hunter and look to break spinal column or do other precision placement then maybe so...


One other thing: Until you test your scope with 100yd zero, you can't be sure you will have even 50% of your total elevation range of adjustment. Might only have 55 or 60moa out of the 125 total range after socpe is zeroed.

 

[dfanonymous]

MIL-Radian is 3.6" at 100yds.... 1/10mil is .36"

Does your MOA reticle actually move at the correct fractional value? 1/4moa = .262 1/8moa = .131

Probably NOT.


A Euro turret is often 1 cm per click at 100 meters 2.54cm = 1"


Probably the Mil-Radian system is easiest understood and most consistently easiest to employ in the field.

If you are trying to get precision bullet placements and not doing the complex moa fractional conversions, at significant distance with low BC or low velocity bullets; you're gonna be off. Shooting a .308win sighted in at 100yds which has 360" drop at 800yds would mean 45moa: IF moa was 1" at 100, but it's not...

Fractions matter at all distances. One less decimal place to convert to if you are using Mil-Rad.

Does it matter on hunting scope on large game animal target? Probably not... If you are a meat hunter and look to break spinal column or do other precision placement then maybe so...


One other thing: Until you test your scope with 100yd zero, you can't be sure you will have even 50% of your total elevation range of adjustment. Might only have 55 or 60moa out of the 125 total range after socpe is zeroed.

Where were you during the MIL vs MOA poll that was forever being argued on here...

 

[Mcranch1242]

Where were you during the MIL vs MOA poll that was forever being argued on here...

Probably shooting pigs that were rooting up my wheat fields

 

[dfanonymous]

Probably shooting pigs that were rooting up my wheat fields

Good man