ELD-M for hunting

[loonie]

More wet newspaper test at 1900 fps .

 

[Raudy707]

Few years ago I shot a bull 3 x at 400 yards broadside with 180 ELD M from 7 Saum. He just stood while I was getting more bullets from my pack. It's a single shot. Never needed 3 before. He walked behind a big tree and laid down. Took 30 min to die. Could see my bullet holes on him . There too fragile and didn't get enough penetration. I have not been able to get a LRAB to come apart on game or wet newspaper test at close range. Shot a bull last year with a 210 lrab doing 3140 at 30 yards from a 300 prc. High shoulder shot exit, minimal blood shot. There tough bullet. All the x bullets I shot in paper came apart .

Agreed. So far I'm hammering big bucks and bulls and the ABLR has kicked a**! I'm gonna try the 208 grain eld-m as some of the heavyweights tend to do better than the light bullets in smaller calibers. My muzzle velo is 2880 fps so I'm not launching them at super high speed.

 

[xsn10s]

I've read the 7mm 180 eldm did better at impact speed of under 2600 fps. I figured I might try that with 208 in a 30-06.

I was running them 3000 fps at 4600 ft. I tried running them harder awhile back for a goat load and they were blowing up before they got to the target. Thats why they say Match, not hunting. I wouln't shoot a elk with them in the ribs if it were very close, like under 600 yards. I already tried that. The 285 M s come apart too, even at reduced velocity, but enough lead there to still do some damage.

I've read the 7mm 180 eldm did better at impact speed of under 2600 fps. I figured I might try that with 208 in a 30-06. I may switch to running a 212 eldn in the 30-06 and a 178 eldx in the 308.

 

[ddoulav]

Judging by this thread I would assume ELDM for moose is a total no go even at 225 grain?

 

[codyadams]

More wet newspaper test at 1900 fps .

Is your testing done with a full power load caught at distance to have a low impact velocity or by reducing loads to get a low velocity impact? If the latter is the case, bullet rotation has been shown to change things dramatically in many cases, and by reducing loads to get the lower m.v., bullet rotation is decreased significantly. Yorke on here did some ballistic gel testing as well that showed this. Still interesting testing even if that is the case.

 

[loonie]

Reduced loads at 100 yards.

 

[richhymas]

Judging by this thread I would assume ELDM for moose is a total no go even at 225 grain?

You would want low impact velocity and a broadside shot and stay off the shoulder. There are better bullets for the job. Moose aren't particularly resilient but they are huge. Better to use a good solid bullet or something. With 70% weight retention like nosler partition or scirocco or a frame or Barnes or hammer bullet.

 

[Benman73]

6.5 123 ELD-M at 2975, distance was close, maybe 60 yards. High shoulder but not a large deer.

 

[born2hunt4ever]

I have had great results with my 6.5-284 and the 147 eld-m. I have a 26" barrel and am getting 2950 FPS. I have shot two antelope at middle distances (485 and 525) both one shot drop on the spot. This combination has killed 7 deer ranging from 200 yards to 585 and they have either dropped in their tracks or only gone a short distance. It has also killed two elk. A spike at 480 yards, first shot hit him right in shoulder and lungs and he was standing there wobbling and I am a firm believer with elk if they are standing I am shooting so I gave him another one right behind the shoulder and he dropped. I shot a cow with them at 625 yards and put two 2" apart right behind her shoulder in the ribcage and through the lungs. She was the same, she was doing the death wobble but I didn't want her getting in a bad spot below where she was feeding so I gave her another one. I have been extremely impressed with this bullet/gun combination. I would not hesitate to use them on big game animals. I am located in Montana. Hope this helps and happy hunting!

 

[richhymas]

I would never hunt again with ELD match for anything bigger than deer. Lost an elk this year. Hit it hard in the shoulder. Elk bedded several times. Recovered 3 large pieces of shoulder bone but the blood trail eventually dried up after over a mile. I'm afraid the bullet didn't penetrate the chest cavity. 200 yard broadside shot on the shoulder.

 

[Ucsdryder]

I would never hunt again with ELD match for anything bigger than deer. Lost an elk this year. Hit it hard in the shoulder. Elk bedded several times. Recovered 3 large pieces of shoulder bone but the blood trail eventually dried up after over a mile. I'm afraid the bullet didn't penetrate the chest cavity. 200 yard broadside shot on the shoulder.

What bullet and cartridge?

 

[richhymas]

What bullet and cartridge?

300 PRC with 225 grain ELD match factory ammo.

 

[cajun]

I would never hunt again with ELD match for anything bigger than deer. Lost an elk this year. Hit it hard in the shoulder. Elk bedded several times. Recovered 3 large pieces of shoulder bone but the blood trail eventually dried up after over a mile. I'm afraid the bullet didn't penetrate the chest cavity. 200 yard broadside shot on the shoulder.

Shot placement is everything when shooting these bullets.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Shot placement is everything when shooting these bullets.

i agree. 200 yards broadside put it in the crease and he's dead. If it's a mono, shoot for bone, if it's a match, shoot for lungs.