Gord0 - very nice! I have just tossed some cases when the web area above the belt started giving me issues but I might look into one of those custom body dies now. Wonder how many more loadings I could get...? 5-6 firings without having to trim is great! I typically go over COAL in some cases in about 4-5 firings, but that's with FL bumping shoulders .0015 - .002 every time. Sometimes I'll trim sooner just to give all cases the exact same length of the shortest in the bunch.