That's hilarious....with the siren. It used to work as locator here in Nevada but I wasn't gonna mention it cuz no one would believe it...a siren sets them all off to howling..LOL
Coyotes won’t come in on a call
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Go back and re read these replies the answers are there it's in the way you hold your call and cup your hands around the hand calls use a gloved hand to muffle it don't blow as hard learn to let your lip quiver the call it doesn't all happen over night an e - call doesn't make you an instant success . Use a closed reed call in the summer time they are easer to learn to use. Use an open reed call in the winter time so it doesn't freeze up. The call is held between the thumb and fore finger with the bell in the palm of your hand then the other hand is cupped over the call open and close your hands to make it louder or quieter blow more or less air in fast or slower amounts to make it louder or quieter and differ the sounds that way . You don't want to use the same sounds that most others are using e-callers suck in that way they have canned sounds and thus are prone to over use . Find someone that you will believe and let them teach you . Look at the Premos web page for hand calls or just look at hand calls on the web practice at home coyote don't always care what sound you think sounds good they have their own likes and dislikes . Coyote aren't just some dumb animal most of the ones I've met make a lot of domestic dogs look not so smart . I spent over 35 years of my life hunting them because of the challenge of hunting them they will make a fool of you often , open your mind and let them teach you take the time to hear and see what they are telling you think on what transpired during your hunts and what did they show about themselves by what their reactions to what you were doing . Don't be fooled into thinking they didn't know you were there and calling them they knew that they were safe at a distance so were relaxed and showed it . I have spotted coyote out well over 1000 yards and called them with low volume calling if I know what something is I'm not going to waist my time going to make sure of it they don't waist there energy doing it either
great instruction & advise.
There are so many factors playing into coyote hunting, it's tough to address them all in here. In my opinion, the most important aspect is to remember that there's a reason coyotes are described as wiley:
- Hide selection and just getting into it stealthily, predicting avenues of approach, and judging the wind all must be accounted for before you even start calling.
- Then there's call selection once you're ready. I've never hand called, but use a FoxPro and have found success with adjusting to seasonally appropriate calls, not over-calling or doing them at loud volumes, and by avoiding the same stale calls over and over. Sometimes if you get a kill on one, hitting them with a distress call right afterwards brings in one or more for a chance at double/multiple.
- A partner is always good to have as well.
- Watch your backtrail. As we were hiking back out, we bagged this guy lurking nearby our first call site.
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CNY Yote Hunter
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Whenever we get a dog hung up on coming to the call we sit silently for a few weeks. I have found not using calls and using scents works just as well if not better than a calI , I usually walk my dog in the area with great success so something along those lines. On that note on old big dogs that have no doubt been educated over the years I use this trick... my wife buys untrimmed chicken and puts the trimmings in a bag for me throughout the year. When I have an educated dog that is really hung up I always bring chicken with me and hit the caller. I don't put the chicken out until after my sets though. I put some all around the set and back out for a few days. Repeat it again, usually by the 3rd time or a week or so later I really screw them up. They learn that the call means food later in the day for them, I will go out and call, then not leave any chicken out. I will return early afternoon or around 2-3 hrs before dark and sit quietly. If the dog isn't seen I will again leave chicken. I have never had this method fail and honestly use it almost all the time now regardless. I used to bag 1 or 2 dogs a year when starting out, now 12-15 is average and I don't go out a lot. I am in upstate NY and they are very hard to hunt here, best of luck
I've had days that if a coyote was made of metal and I had the most powerful magnet on earth I couldn't pull one in. One time I actually heard what I thought was an antelope running up behind me, only to have a coyote run over my back.
From over 50 some years of hunting Idaho's mountains and deserts as well as northern Nevada's, I have found one thing that is very common in hunting coyotes everywhere. You can never expect the same reaction from the next coyote you call in but, never start with a high volume level in your call. Additionally, you must keep your vehicle hidden from your approach, work into your call area below the skyline and be stealthy in your setting up of your call and decoy. I like to wait at least 15 minutes after setting up before I start calling. I glass around the area and sometimes use my rangefinder. I have taken far more coyotes with a shotgun than rifle during the winter months but the biggest error most hunters make is over calling and calling too loud. A coyote can hear a mouse scratching it's ear under 4' of snow.
From over 50 some years of hunting Idaho's mountains and deserts as well as northern Nevada's, I have found one thing that is very common in hunting coyotes everywhere. You can never expect the same reaction from the next coyote you call in but, never start with a high volume level in your call. Additionally, you must keep your vehicle hidden from your approach, work into your call area below the skyline and be stealthy in your setting up of your call and decoy. I like to wait at least 15 minutes after setting up before I start calling. I glass around the area and sometimes use my rangefinder. I have taken far more coyotes with a shotgun than rifle during the winter months but the biggest error most hunters make is over calling and calling too loud. A coyote can hear a mouse scratching it's ear under 4' of snow.
looks like Monterey Co. or Maybe, San Benito Co?
The siren is still used as a locator and over used a lot, at some times of the year the adults don't always answer it I have been called in to find coyote that others have tried to locate with the siren , that were killing a lot of lambs . If you are too close they don't answer it well when they are frightened they just hunker down the same as most people do . I've had them not make a sound but just come into the siren . I could see them way off get up and start moving in to it's sound as well . More time , hours , days and years spent in the field then I can count you get to see a lot of coyote behavior that others don't but there is still so much more to see and learn from them I'm still able to breath and move so can still learn from them they are your best teacher about them if you will just let them teach you they adapt and over come . I have seen them learn not to do somethings and have seen them learn how to work guard dogs and lamas they then teach their kids
Taken on a cattle ranch in Santa Barbara County.
MZmoose
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This time of year pup in distress, or coyote death cry. If I call and they show themselves but won't come in, un *** yourself and stalk em until your inside your comfort range for a shot. I've killed 9 since the covid lockdown and a third of them were stalked and killed.
101stCurrahee
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Hahaha I was actually planning on that. I was in a full ghillie ready to do some stalking right before she split
