Coyote carnage.
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Back in the 90's the animal rights whackos, with the help of some "sportsmen," primarily bird hunters, pushed through a leg-hold trapping ban here in AZ. Now, those same "sportsmen" constantly complain about the low quail numbers we have across the state, even in wet years. They just can't seem to understand that when the predator population grows unchecked, the prey numbers tank. I once killed 9 out of a single pack. Walked up on the edge of a big wash and caught the whole pack sleeping under some trees in the shade. Shot the first on at about 15 yards and the last one at about 450 yards. Went through a whole 30 round mag in a Mini-14, but I got all but 2.
Near end of May, I believe.
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Road runners also kill a huge number of chicks.
MZmoose
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My hunting group killed 40 yotes last year on the 5000 acres we hunt for open country mule deer. And yes they eat their own, and attack and kill their own when wounded. We've been killing on average 30 yotes a year for the last 5 years and are seeing a lot more doe with fawns and twins fawns surviving into the fall. When we started hunting there it was common to see packs of 3 to 5 yotes hunting together. But no more....
Studies done by some universities , in Texas and California , as well as by the U S D A , say that you need to take around 70 percent of the years pup crop to just stay with even numbers of coyote . I'm not sure that happens most years in most locations . That is why I tried to take the females starting in Feb. and then did an aggressive denning program starting the end of April . Fawn numbers showed that it did in fact have an effect .
This is what a coyote biologist told me too. You need to get at least 70% every year to knock their numbers down . Also he said that trapping in all reality was the most effective method . Hunting in the spring and summer has more effect on them because your wiping pups out better that way. He also said that if you would nuke the land that coyotes , rats , and cockroaches would be the only thing that would survive
Those are probably the same biologists that tell the masses coyotes only eat insects an an occasional mouse. Either way it's fun going after them, I doubt if the 23000 acres in my backyard will ever run out of them. Good shooting to you.
Actually they are the biologists that work to control the coyote most of them worked for the U.S.D.A. Wildlife Services , in Texas and California the universities were trying to study how to control them for their departments of agriculture . I learned of these studies and read them when I was studying to become a coyote control worker myself . A well trained trapper and snares man can sure make a dent in their population . Calling and hunting them from February till mid June as well if you take the time and can tell which one is the heavy females and how to target the females at that time of the year makes a real dent in them as well . Learning how to hunt the dens with the pups in them is probably the most effective control tool in that tool kit . All in all it depends on what it is that you are really trying to accomplish as to what it is that you do . For the most part the people on this site are mostly out to enjoy themselves and kill a few coyote as well as some time really doing coyote control is secondary to the fun of the hunt from what I have seen and read here . There are a few people that have or do take coyote control seriously and really get into studying them as well as hunting them and do what they can to be very effective at control work .
Absolutely not he was an advocate on controlling their numbers. He actually talked also quite a bit about den hunting and digging them out . Just that he believed trapping was the most cost effective method . By no means was he pushing the they are fuzzy insect eaters
He gave a lot of what appeared to be factual info on fawn mortality rates and young turkey. I believe he said something along the lines that they would eat anything that didn't eat them first
I didn't dig much at dens . I used a piece of barbed wire with a loop in the end of it then would bend a crank in it and screw it into the den like using a plumbers snake . As it went in I would straighten it out and bend another crank in it . The barbs would tangle in the pups fur and then you pulled them out and started all over with the process . I didn't like to mess the den up badly and carried the pups out with me so that the next pair to come into the area for denning the next year would often be in the same area and maybe the same den hole making my life easer . But then that's me I got paid per coyote and wanted to get it done as fast as I could to save me money and make it pay as well as I could .
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A good snareman can put the whammy on them, I don't know if I qualify. I've literally got hundred of pictures of coyotes, maybe close to 1000, I don't believe there's enough space on here to post em all, but I may try. some places you have to resort to this as they're wary of shooters, bad past experiences.
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I didn't take a lot of pictures I just did it .People that do it and do it well are the minority most are just pleasure hunters if you take it seriously you qualify . I didn't kill a lot of coyote compared to others I only averaged 216 per year for 36 years not counting the pups or the ones taken from the air . Take a look at page 93 of ramblings and such that was from a week this year in April it's all fun and good when your killing coyote it doesn't matter if your doing it for pleasure or as a control worker does it ? Those pictures were taken to show the reproductive tract of the coyote and a typical den site here , we all do what we can and when we're gone the coyote will come back in our areas like they were before we did any thing . The kids that took over the ranch's I worked for sold the sheep and hunt their coyote just for fun now so they have the large numbers of coyote that were there when I started . They have gas and oil so they don't need to raise livestock for a living any longer
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