Christensen ridgeline fft or feirce carbon rival

[Joefrazell]

28 nosler will buck the wind better the a 300 prc. I'd personally still go with the 300 prc for lots of reasons that I won't get into.

 

[akmtnhnt]

Out here in the west where long shots are common and swirling wind in the canyons will test your skill level we use heavy bullets to buck the wind. A fast 7mm will still submit to the winds faster than a big 30 or my favorite the 338 Edge with 300gr custom comps. If your not in the market for a 338 cartridge, I would suggest the 300 PRC with 212gr bullets. I sit on logging roads and shoot across the canyons 350-1200 yards. Having shot the 28 Nosler and 300 PRC the recoil is about the same as the 338 Edge with heavy bullets.

Heavy bullets don't buck wind. High bc bullets do. Until you get really long in 30 and 338, the 284 is going to have a higher BC and less wind drift. This is very basic ballistics.

 

[7.62 Gunner]

Out here in the west where long shots are common and swirling wind in the canyons will test your skill level we use heavy bullets to buck the wind. A fast 7mm will still submit to the winds faster than a big 30 or my favorite the 338 Edge with 300gr custom comps. If your not in the market for a 338 cartridge, I would suggest the 300 PRC with 212gr bullets. I sit on logging roads and shoot across the canyons 350-1200 yards. Having shot the 28 Nosler and 300 PRC the recoil is about the same as the 338 Edge with heavy bullets.

Sorry but WHAT??
In no world does the 28 nosler recoil like a 338 edge with heavies, nor does a 212 buck the wind better than a .284 195 or 180 eldm

 

[adk hunter]

I have multiple CA and no Fierce so can't offer you that info.

I have handled the Ridgeline FFT in several calibers and would not buy one. I believe they are too light for the magnum cartridges and the first thing I would do is grind their name off the bottom "metal" since it is really sharp and unpleasant carry in hand.

Go straight Ridgeline if CA. Lots of good info on the Fierce from guys who really know them.
Or check out APR rifles ready to ship page...

 

[softtail103]

Heavy bullets don't buck wind. High bc bullets do. Until you get really long in 30 and 338, the 284 is going to have a higher BC and less wind drift. This is very basic ballistics.

I shoot mountain to mountain and more than willing to put my 300gr Berger VLD against your 195 Berger EOL in a cross wind.

 

[softtail103]

Sorry but WHAT??
In no world does the 28 nosler recoil like a 338 edge with heavies, nor does a 212 buck the wind better than a .284 195 or 180 eld

Spoken by a guy who probably has neither in his safe. My 9# 28 Nosler running 195 EOL bullets does recoil like my 12.5# 338 Edge. Not a lot of 338 Edges out there that weight 9#. I see you are new so try to impart some common sense before commenting. Both run side brakes. 338 Edge runs a Terminator T3 brake. AND YES 7.62 GUNNER IT TAMES THE RECOIL.

 

[softtail103]

Heavy bullets don't buck wind. High bc bullets do. Until you get really long in 30 and 338, the 284 is going to have a higher BC and less wind drift. This is very basic ballistics.

Thank for the science tip, I have read that also. Now do you have a real world experience shooting mountain to mountain? Do you understand swirling cross winds? The photo is of both of the following. Both seated into ADG brass.
28 Nosler. 195 EOL G7 0.387
338 Edge. 300 Elite Hunter G7 0.427

 

[FEENIX]

 

[7.62 Gunner]

Spoken by a guy who probably has neither in his safe. My 9# 28 Nosler running 195 EOL bullets does recoil like my 12.5# 338 Edge. Not a lot of 338 Edges out there that weight 9#. I see you are new so try to impart some common sense before commenting. Both run side brakes. 338 Edge runs a Terminator T3 brake. AND YES 7.62 GUNNER IT TAMES THE RECOIL.

I'm going to ignore your jackassery and state the facts, and don't be comparing light rifles to heavy rifles with aggressive brakes and claim the recoil is the same between cartridges..

I had a 9.5lb (scoped) 28 nosler and fed it plenty of 195s, recoil was pretty mild with a brake
I've also owned a 338 RUM,and 338 NM which wore a T5 brake.
Both were absolutely brutal so I sold them off and built a 30 NOS
(Which is 9.5 scoped/suppressed and recoils less as well).

 

[Korhil78]

I have loaded for a Fierce CT rival in 7 Mag, a Fierce Carbon rival in 300 WM and a Christensen Mesa IN 300 RUM. I can tell you that the Fierce rifles are way nicer in feel and fit and finish. I was also able to get both fierce rifles to shoot in the .3 MOA range quite easily. The Christensen rifle is a .5-.7 MOA rifle and that's all I could ring out of it. The stocks are on another level in the fierce rifles compared to the Christensen.

Fierce CT Rival 7 Mag

Fierce Carbon Rival 300 WM

Christensen Mesa 300 RUM

 

[softtail103]

I'm going to ignore your jackassery and state the facts, and don't be comparing light rifles to heavy rifles with aggressive brakes and claim the recoil is the same between cartridges..

I had a 9.5lb (scoped) 28 nosler and fed it plenty of 195s, recoil was pretty mild with a brake
I've also owned a 338 RUM,and 338 NM which wore a T5 brake.
Both were absolutely brutal so I sold them off and built a 30 NOS
(Which is 9.5 scoped/suppressed and recoils less as well).

When you are comparing the cartridge you use the gun meant for the cartridge. What was the weight of your 338 NM? What bullet did you use? Was it overbore? Overbore creates a increase in recoil velocity which then has a direct and distinct effect on felt recoil. Also when using the Terminator line of brakes try to use them correctly. They use applied science to make them. The T3 is intended for the 338 bullet while the OVER AGGRESSIVE T5 is meant for the 375 CheyTac. Thank you for explaining how the recoil of my rifle is. You have never even owned the 338 Edge or shot one. But you are going to tell me about the felt recoil of my rifle. I am in transit but will be back later and will send you a photo of my newest 338 Edge. Pierce titanium action with a 28 inch Hart #4 barrel a non Aggressive Vias brake. Rifle is in the 7.5# range without a scope. You don't like recoil and that has no effect on the rest of us who shoot these cartridges. Recoil tolerance is a personal preference.

 

[Korhil78]

Guys take it to PMs. The OP is asking a simple question about opinions of two different brands of rifles. He doesn't need to hear all that.

 

[akmtnhnt]

Thank for the science tip, I have read that also. Now do you have a real world experience shooting mountain to mountain? Do you understand swirling cross winds? The photo is of both of the following. Both seated into ADG brass.
28 Nosler. 195 EOL G7 0.387
338 Edge. 300 Elite Hunter G7 0.427

Point stands that BC and time to target is what is causing it to not wind drift. Not the weight. You can, and companies do, make copper bullets with higher BC and less weight than the berger's you're shooting.
The two are related, but one does not directly cause the other. To the point that the phrase "weight bucks wind" is factually incorrect.

 

[rgvt4]

Between the two I would go with fierce Little more money and a pound heavier. if you are looking at weight and price the CA is lighter and less expensive