I bought one for a buddy after I saw him flipping primers over with his fingers. They are cheap and easy to use. If you were closer to Casper, i would give you my spare one.I've seen the trays. But I notice sometimes the primers aren't facing same way in package. When you dump them into tray how do you get them to all face same way. Does it flip them and land heavy side down ? Then flip tray over ? Sounds like I just started reloading . Lol