Calling all 270 cal loyals.

[DJ Fergus]

In another thread, lots of 270 cal loyalists are anticipating another modernized 270 cal cartridge. So we have the 27 nosler coming soon in a long action high velocity round which looks like it's going to be a really nice cartridge, so that niche is filled. A commercialized 270 has been done in a long action a couple of times. 270 wby & 270 win and now the modernized 27 nosler with correct twist for long & heavy. So do you 270 loyalists feel a need for a modernized 270 cal in a true short action with long heavies? We can talk about the 270WSM and it can be set up for long heavy projectiles but for it to really be done right, it should be in a long action. We have the 270 fury coming but it seems to be designed around 140gr bullets. So what's missing? 270 has been done in long action & high velocity. Is there a niche to fill with a 270 cal cartridge of moderate velocities in a short action with long heavy high bc bullets & mild recoil to compete with such rounds as the 6.5 creedmoor & 7mm-08 rem and why not go ahead and say to compete with the 308 Winchester?

 

[birdiemc]

I've seriously considered building a 270ss, way too many folks speak way too highly of the SS cartridges, but I'm partial to the 270 so I think that would be a fun build. I am very interested on a true short action 270...
Shoot might just build one of each in the SS lineup before it's all said and done.

 

[DJ Fergus]

Yeah, I think the Sherman series is really what any of the magnum cartridges should be designed like. Honestly, they are superior to the prc line up or nosler line up of cartridges. But I guess I'm exploring the interest in a 270 cal non magnum true short action with long heavy projectiles.

 

[440coronet]

Lets resurrect Jack O'Conner and ask him!

 

[birdiemc]

I have to admit I've not studied what offerings are available in 270 in depth...who out there has necked down a 308 and stuffed a 270 bullet in it? Surely that's been done

 

[xsn10s]

I have to admit I've not studied what offerings are available in 270 in depth...who out there has necked down a 308 and stuffed a 270 bullet in it? Surely that's been done

It has been done. "And don't call me Shirley"

 

[DJ Fergus]

I have to admit I've not studied what offerings are available in 270 in depth...who out there has necked down a 308 and stuffed a 270 bullet in it? Surely that's been done

It has been done but there's the same issue there as a 7mm-08 has with trying to get a 180gr in it or the same issue you would have with a creedmoor case with a 170gr 277 or 180gr 7mm. If they were constricted to a short action magazine, so much of the bullet is stuck in the case, it eats up much power volume, equalling to significantly less velocity. So, an even shorter fatter case would be needed to achieve 168gr 30 cal 308 Winchester like velocities in a true short action.

 

[DJ Fergus]

What I'm driving at is a 270 170gr in a short action modernized case that yeilds 2600 or up to around 2800 fps with a lighter charge weight than a short mag & will deliver more down range energy than a standard 270 win with 130gr and have equivalent to possibly less perceived recoil. And it would likely deliver more energy out to 600 yards than the 270 wsm would with 130gr bullets while having much less wind deflection. So what 270 cal loyalists wouldn't like that?

 

[Lahunter76]

I am new to the 270 and I have just gotten a used Remington 700 and let me tell you!!! I am very happy with it!! I used factory 130gr Ballistic Silver Tips ammo. Plan on reloading but I am also looking at maybe rebarreling to the 27nosler, my issue is I already have another action, stock, barrel, ready to be built into a 28nosler lol! So I will keep as is or look another 277 round

 

[DJ Fergus]

I am new to the 270 and I have just gotten a used Remington 700 and let me tell you!!! I am very happy with it!! I used factory 130gr Ballistic Silver Tips ammo. Plan on reloading but I am also looking at maybe rebarreling to the 27nosler, my issue is I already have another action, stock, barrel, ready to be built into a 28nosler lol! So I will keep as is or look another 277 round

I built a 7mm stw, ballistic twin to the 28 nosler, you should like the 28 nosler with a decent muzzle brake.

 

[Frog4aday]

I think the .27 Nosler is 'the next big thing' for the .270 caliber. It will be 'twisted' to handle 165grain and 170grain high BC bullets. It'll produce lots of speed and power. For those looking to push the .270 into the 'modern' world, that'll be the cartridge to go to next.

I think the .270 WSM already 'captures' the short action, higher powered option adequately, even if it isn't ideal for the long, high BC bullets. I'd like to see a .270-08 Ackley Improved catch on, but what's it going to really offer that the .270 WSM doesn't already? I just like the idea of a .277 bullet out of a .308 case...just because.

Frankly, the .270 Win is pretty great just the way it is. Nope, it isn't going to shoot the heavy BC bullets and knock elk down at 1000 yards. But that's okay. It's pretty awesome out to about 600 yards, which is as far as I'm going to ever attempt to shoot a living, breathing thing (personally imposed limit.) Nosler makes a 160 grain Partition that works in the 1-10 twist, if I ever get the urge to chase moose or bears, I suppose. The 130 grain is great on deer and antelope. The 150 grain is good for elk, mulies, and black bears. The 90 & 100 grain projectiles are very good on varmints. Modern rifles and scopes allow us to really use the cartridge to its best inside 600 yards. Hard to believe a cartridge from 1925 is still holding up so well in 2020 against the newest fads. It'll be interesting to see what comes next.

 

[moosekiller99]

In my .270 Win I'm moving 150 Berger's at 3000 plus fps with Reloder 26. A 1:9 or faster twist barrel should give what's desired for longer/heavier high BC bullets.

 

[Capt RB]

I have a ladder test loaded with 140 classics w/Rl26 I'm running the gamechangers at 3140 and I expect no less for these. These are not in my rifle though so we shall see. In my rifle 61.2 in FC brass works. Winny brass is 13-15 grains lighter in weight so I hope to see it start shooting in 61.7 range which should be near 3200fps range. This particular rifle is throated a bit shorter than mine though

 

[Savage 12BVSS]

I was ready to do a 270-08 several years ago, I like short action 308 inspired rounds. Already had the 260 and 7mm-08 so it seemed right to do a 270-08 or whatever they officially call the wildcat. I still haven't ruled it out although I wouldn't attempt to run higher weight bullets like mentioned. For me the 130/150gr offerings would suffice, my gunsmith had a reamer for it (hence the suggestion to build one) I never looked to see who made dies for it. Would be an interesting build, I've always liked the 27 caliber and its usefulness in a medium capacity case. Might look into that and see what I think.