Burris Signature Rings or Other?

[Senderofan]

I never said I was upset with what I paid for my SAKO rings nor made it a p!ss!ng contest other than sharing real world hands on experience to help the OP in his decision making process.

Same here brother.... Just sharing experience with both brands of rings. Just mis-interpreted the analogy you made regarding the Sako rings....thought you were intimating they were from the same source. As far as the p!ssing contest statement....seems like some get worked up about certain brands....I really don't. I'm concerned more about quality and bang for my buck. But I wanted others to know my comments were not to be taken as hostile.

If Signature rings work.... Great. Just want to point out they are very different than the Seekins/Vortex that was asked about in the original post. Both sets of rings Can accomplish the same objective......but there are differences....we can agree on that. Some feel the Signatures are great for a heavy recoiling rifle.....I like the alternative.

It's just sharing of experiences and information. To date, we live in one of the greatest places on Earth.....and can participate in opposing dialogue. We can respect each other and just say we disagree on which set of rings.......in the grand scheme of things....what does it matter?

Wayne

 

[FEENIX]

I use the Burris signature rings and it has nothing to do with price, I can afford whatever I want. I use them because they work. I can get 20 MOA of off set in elevation and they don't leave marks on my scopes.
I have them on two 7mm mags a 280AI and a 338 RUM without problems.

Bingo!

 

[FEENIX]

Same here brother.... Just sharing experience with both brands of rings. Just mis-interpreted the analogy you made regarding the Sako rings....thought you were intimating they were from the same source. As far as the p!ssing contest statement....seems like some get worked up about certain brands....I really don't. I'm concerned more about quality and bang for my buck. But I wanted others to know my comments were not to be taken as hostile.

If Signature rings work.... Great. Just want to point out they are very different than the Seekins/Vortex that was asked about in the original post. Both sets of rings Can accomplish the same objective......but there are differences....we can agree on that. Some feel the Signatures are great for a heavy recoiling rifle.....I like the alternative.

It's just sharing of experiences and information. To date, we live in one of the greatest places on Earth.....and can participate in opposing dialogue. We can respect each other and just say we disagree on which set of rings.......in the grand scheme of things....what does it matter?

Wayne

I referenced the SAKO rings because they too have inserts ... that's all.

 

[Senderofan]

I use the Burris signature rings and it has nothing to do with price, I can afford whatever I want. I use them because they work. I can get 20 MOA of off set in elevation and they don't leave marks on my scopes.
I have them on two 7mm mags a 280AI and a 338 RUM without problems.

Yes...and the picture I posted....the base is a 20 m.o.a base with Vortex rings and leaves no marks on my scope as well....and I don't have to use inserts. All of my center fires have canted bases with machined rings...that leave no marks. I do not have infinite funds....so I take my purchases seriously... I could have chosen the Signatures and obviously saved money...I chose otherwise. YMMV.

Two different ways of doing things...the OP has two opposing opinions and will have to decide which best suites his particular needs and budget.

Wayne

 

[Senderofan]

I referenced the SAKO rings because they too have inserts ... that's all.

My bad. Can be an issue when reading....versus an actual conversation. Sorry.

Wayne

 

[FEENIX]

My bad. Can be an issue when reading....versus an actual conversation. Sorry.

Wayne

Wayne,

No problem, it's all good. Cheers!

Ed

 

[Rich Coyle]

As far as the p!ssing contest statement....seems like some get worked up about certain brands....I really don't. Wayne

It seems you got "worked up" against a brand. I use Burris Signatures with the plastic inserts to hold the scope on the .375-.416 Rem Mag and .300 Weatherby because even expensive rings mark scopes at times. Using the Signatures I have never had a scope move or leave ring marks.

 

[Senderofan]

It seems you got "worked up" against a brand. I use Burris Signatures with the plastic inserts to hold the scope on the .375-.416 Rem Mag and .300 Weatherby because even expensive rings mark scopes at times. Using the Signatures I have never had a scope move or leave ring marks.

Not worked up...just want to point out there are differences. I currently own Signature rings as well as Vortex / Seekins and other tight tolerance machined rings.....so I'm sharing my experience and thoughts on which one I think the OP should get. I'm glad folks have found success with Signature rings with plastic inserts. My positive experience is with machined rings with tight tolerances. My 300 WM ( past rifle ) and 338 Sin have Badger Max 50 rings. They have never slipped or marked a scope. Vortex / Seekins and Badger etc. are all tightly machined rings and provide an excellent interface between the scope, ring and base. Now you could argue if the base wasn't installed properly...or if the rifle manufacturer messes up with the alignment of the holes in the receiver or improper torquing of the caps....machined rings would probably leave marks. But if the base is that far off...cranking down a scope with plastic inserts is going to torque on the main tube of the scope...which is going to cause damage...just might not be scope ring marks.

I just happen to think it's better for the scope to be mounted in such a way that everything is a straight ( true to the bore ) as possible. This reduces or eliminates stresses on the main tube of the scope....allowing it to function as it was designed. Which also, in my mind, protects my investment in the scope such that the scope will function perfectly long after I am planted in the ground. I feel the plastic inserts are designed to "Rectify" variances in alignment and / or loose machine tolerances...ie not perfectly concentric circle in the ring. The plastic insert not only acts to grip the scope....it's rounded surface that sits in the rings acts as a bearing....to try and account for any misalignment issues.....My hypothesis.

Perhaps this is a Chevy versus Ford or Dodge situation. Guess the OP has varying opinions to weed through and ultimately has to decide which is better for his application. We're all rational people...trying to convey one's impressions about something from a keyboard.....which can often be misinterpreted....when compared to a live discussion. I will be the first to admit that I am "Kerboard Challenged!" But I'm trying.

Wayne

 

[Good]

Thanks for all the information Wayne and others. I do understand the opinions of everyone who posted, and have a better grasp on the different clampers out there (pun intended ). I found a pretty good price on some Seekins ring in the configuration that I wanted, so that is what I bought. Thanks again.

 

[FEENIX]

Thanks for all the information Wayne and others. I do understand the opinions of everyone who posted, and have a better grasp on the different clampers out there (pun intended ). I found a pretty good price on some Seekins ring in the configuration that I wanted, so that is what I bought. Thanks again.

That's good (pun intended ) ... happy safe shooting/hunting.

 

[Varmint Hunter]

While tactical rings may provide a significant amount of holding strength they haven't been necessary on any of my rifles, including several ultra mags.
I have always liked the idea of non-marring, non-binding ring inserts and have put Signature rings on every rifle I own. Most of my rifle have Signature Zee rings on tactical bases.
With or without a brake I have yet to experience any scope slippage with these Burris insert rings.

 

[FEENIX]

We all know NF quality but even they mar scopes ...

(http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f40/n-f-3-5x15x56-npr1-zs-n-f-rings-1100-a-150333/)

 

[Senderofan]

We all know NF quality but even they mar scopes ...

(http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f40/n-f-3-5x15x56-npr1-zs-n-f-rings-1100-a-150333/)

Ouch....that's some pretty serious chaffing there. Luckily I've not experienced anything like that yet....maybe it's just a matter of time. I've also used NighForce Ultra Light rings in the past and was very pleased. If my Badgers ever do something like those NF rings...I'm in big trouble....they cover a bunch of the main tubes on two of my scopes.





Wayne

 

[WYcoyote]

I use the Burris signature rings and it has nothing to do with price, I can afford whatever I want. I use them because they work. I can get 20 MOA of off set in elevation and they don't leave marks on my scopes.

I could have wrote this.