Brass Prep for long range accuracy

[338 dude]

Nonsense. You can jam and stick a bullet just the same if you are neck sizing.....

Often times not always or every time

 

[Bradu]

Sub moa at what distance?

Out to a mile with some calibers. Why is it so hard to believe? 1k is easy with factory ammo especially with 6.5 prc, 300 prc, 300 win mag, 338 lapua...yes, magnums.

As far as reloading, everyone has a different method of reloading. Just because it isn't the same as the op's method doesn't mean you can't achieve the same or even better results. He doesn't want to believe that all brass is annealed, not just lapua. Even cheap 223 brass is annealed, it's done when it's formed.

 

[338 dude]

Out to a mile with some calibers. Why is it so hard to believe? 1k is easy with factory ammo especially with 6.5 prc, 300 prc, 300 win mag, 338 lapua...yes, magnums.

As far as reloading, everyone has a different method of reloading. Just because it isn't the same as the op's method doesn't mean you can't achieve the same or even better results. He doesn't want to believe that all brass is annealed, not just lapua. Even cheap 223 brass is annealed, it's done when it's formed.

Brass is started from one solid slug and must be annealed several times through the process of forming a cartridge

 

[Remmy700]

This may be true but often time is an anomaly more than a standard. Way more times than not factory ammo of any kind can not compete with the product of a knowledgeable reloader. Again there are exceptions but I personally have never seen factory ammo shoot better than any of the pills I rolled myself.

 

[L.Sherm]

I've shot factory ammo that had 100 fps spread, and yes it was " Precision " ammo

 

[Bradu]

This may be true but often time is an anomaly more than a standard. Way more times than not factory ammo of any kind can not compete with the product of a knowledgeable reloaded. Again there are exceptions but I personally have never seen factory ammo shoot better than any of the pills I rolled myself.

If you want a great example of what factory ammo is capable of, look at the 300 norma improved builds that Ryan Pierce does. He shoots the rifles with factory Berger ammo and shoots in the .1"s and .2"s consistently. Berger's extreme spread is impressive as well on their ammo. I'm not disagreeing that reloading to a specific rifle isn't better, just pointing out that virgin brass will shoot just fine even at a distance.

 

[L.Sherm]

I know what thread your referring to go back a few pages and you will see how he talks about it being crooked and some of the necks being dented so bad they wont chamber and those are all at 100 yards.

 

[Bradu]

I know what thread your referring to go back a few pages and you will see how he talks about it being crooked and some of the necks being dented so bad they wont chamber and those are all at 100 yards.

I was referring to Facebook posts of his. I haven't seen that issue and neither have my friends that shoot it. I'm sure he shoots a lot of it though so he probably has ran into it. It's about like anything made anymore, quality suffers to try and keep up with demand.

 

[Steve Sheasly]

I'm not following this. A jammed bullet will stay in the rifling if you open the bolt regardless of whether you neck size or FL size. That isn't why they full length size.

This is very true.

 

[L.Sherm]

 

[Steve Sheasly]

View attachment 148986 I know when I reload new brass I full length resize. Why ? Because they feed better for some reason. After that I neck size only for the life of the brass till It is unfit for future reloads. I don't get into all that science about neck tension, crimp this, weight every bullet then weight my brass. All I use is Redding dies. PO there is more important thangs to worry about. I load the bullets as far as I can as long as they feed in my Mag. Do my later test, load my rounds and call it good. 5 shot 100 yard group. Without the BS. Guess I need to learn how to Reload. LoL

Nice group.

 

[Csafisher]

Often times not always or every time

Well no kidding. The point is, match shooters do not fl size so they don't jam a bullet......... as I just said that can happen with both...........

 

[Steve Sheasly]

Cool camper. My father in law owned the ranch next door 12k acres a cowboys cowboy he woulf stay in that camper,on that old willys all elk season. With his dog Pete. We,lost him a few,years ago and a piece of,our hearts and history.

 

[Csafisher]

The reason an unfired round sticks in the chamber often times is because they are jamming bullets into the lands and if unloaded ends up dumping powder in the action and they are done for the day. This is why competition shooters preach full sizing

This literally has nothing to do with how the brass is sized