Barnes TTSX or Nosler Partition in 257 Wthby MAG ?

[okie man]

We are talking about 25 cal bullets. 30 cal you gotta remember can be 308 velocity or 300 ultra mag velocity! Then there's 300 pound game and 800 pound game. Compare apples too apples

I don't tend to disagree with folks too often as it seems that most things are pretty subjective when it comes to bullets but I'll disagree with SST's being the same as accubonds. I've personally witnessed 180 gr SST's completely disintegrate on a bull elks shoulder. And that was out of a .30-06 at 200 yards. Not exactly a crazy high impact velocity. On the other hand I've never had a 180 accubond out of my .300 win mag at 3050 FPS fail at any range. That's 9 different elk and a few deer at ranges from 20-404 yards. The Hornady inter bond might be about the same as an accubond but I don't have any experience with them.

Don't mean to offend anyone but that's just my experience.

 

[Elkeater]

We are talking about 25 cal bullets. 30 cal you gotta remember can be 308 velocity or 300 ultra mag velocity! Then there's 300 pound game and 800 pound game. Compare apples too apples

Good point about game size for sure. I guess I assume bullet construction is the same in the 25 cal size so I guess that was my point it was more about bullet construction.

 

[okie man]

Interlock style bullets hold together and expand well on game they are built for as good as bonded bullets at half the price. More weight and tougher construction is what separates deer and elk bullets

 

[MagnumManiac]

There's many misconceptions regarding bullets of different weights and diameters.
After sectioning samples of each bullet I use, and discussing the results, where possible, with the people that make them, I can assure you that not ALL bullets that are offered in the same cal are exactly the same as each other regarding construction or design. For example, the 165gr Accubond in 30 cal is constructed to handle 30-06 velocities up to standard magnums, the same cannot be said of the 180gr or 200gr bullets, they are designed for the standard magnums through the super magnums.
So, a blanket statement regarding bullet performance across cartridges cannot be made accurately. Even generalising is often not even in the ballpark.

Cheers.

 

[MagnumManiac]

600lb deer? I want to hunt with you cowboy!

Sambar deer stags run 300+kg on the hoof, a hind is about 100kg less. An average rumen will weigh 70kg or so.

BTW, Moose and Elk are actually DEER.

Cheers.

 

[wc870]

http://southwestammo.com/index.php/product/nosler-25-cal-110-gr-accubond-bullet/
found some

 

[TG-5150]

https://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!q=257 caliber bullets
Check this site out.

 

[Garycrow]

I'd opine that either the partition or TTSX would work great but lately I've been using TTSX's with great results so I'd lean towards the 100 TTSX & the 80 gr wouldn't scare me any.

 

[KyCarl]

I like 100 Gr. Partitions in my 25-06 at 3300 FPS! I have never lost a deer using them.
I know they aren't the next new thing..But they work!

 

[cjhunts_alot]

I've killed a lot of animals with my .257wby and 100ttsx's at 3500fps. The results have been mostly good (obviously shot placement is key). Inside 300yds it's pretty much bang-flop, every time on deer. I killed an elk and a shiras moose without any issues. Both shots were were inside 140yds and the trama and penetration was way beyond what I was expecting. I shot the elk in the heavy bone of the front shoulder as he was quartered to me and it penetrated all the way through and stuck inside the skin on the opposite hip (3' of penetration). The bull took a step and died immediately. I shot the moose broadside and it liquified both of his lungs. He took a few steps and angled toward me. I shot him again in front of the shoulder and the bullet nicked the top of the spine and exited the opposite shoulder. Neither bullet was recovered.

I've also shot a few deer beyond 400yds with the 100ttsx and the results were significantly worse. All of the animals died, but the bullet just didn't cause the amount of trama I prefer. Very narrow wound channels and poor blood trails. I shot a mule deer buck twice at 650 and both bullets penciled through the lungs. He was previously wounded by a buddy and I finished him off. If my shots weren't through the lungs I doubt we would have found that buck.

As my long range proficiency has increased, I've realized that the ttsx's just aren't intended for that use. I'm going to try some hammer bullets to hopefully get better results a little further out while still being able to get the penetration needed for closer shots where a lead bullet just wouldn't hold up.

All that said, I have a ton of confidence in the 100ttsx out of my weatherby inside 250-300yds. I'd take almost any angled shot and have little worry about whether or not the bullet would make it through the animal.

 

[okie man]

I used the 115 tsx when I took my 257 weatherby elk hunting. Told myself nothing farther than 400 yards!

 

[Michigan]

I use 100gr Barnes ttsx in .257 in a Ruger #1V and a Weatherby ULW with a #1 contour. Both are used on antelope Mule deer and whitetails with pass through on lung shots. I like the Barnes performance but hate removing copper from barrels. Contact Barnes and they always help me find the bullets through one of their retailers.

 

[merasmus]

I recently got a new rifle a range certified (the old MOA) Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 in 257 Weatherby Magnum. Actually my best friend and hunting buddy of 20 plus years and I bought one each with consecutive serial numbers. Kinda cool how that worked out its his pre retirement gift for when he retires this year.

So I reload and I cant decide if we should shoot the Barnes 100 grain TTSX bullet or the Nosler Partition in 100 or 115 grain bullets. In the Nosler I am edging towards the 115 grain due to its slightly high ballistic coefficient and they seem to slightly perform better on game reportedly due to the way partitions work when they strike game.

Any one use either? We both have several rifles in 30 cal but wanted something a little lighter in recoil as sadly we are getting older day by day lol. Plus we just wanted a new toy.

We mostly hunt whitetail deer and possibly some antelope is about all we get to hunt. I use a lot of Hornady and Seirra Bullets in most of my other rifles. I however read and talked with some folks who say they tried the ELD-x in 243 and now 257 with poor results meaning the animal was dead but their was no exit wounds and very little if any blood trials and the animals went way further than expected after the shot. SO I am looking for a good long range bullet that exits and the Nosler and Barnes bullets seem to be good from what I read.

My gun came from the factory being shot with weatherby ammo using the Barnes TTSX bullet in 80 grains. Its group was .67 sub MOA. I would like to shoot atleast a 100 grain of bullet even though some folks say with Barnes you can step down some in weight and get great results.

I will be using Hornady brass, Federal #215 GM primers and starting with H1000 to test them. Thanks for your time in reading this!!!!

I use a 2506 for most of my hunting of Antelope, Wt, Mule deer, and cow Elk. I do go to my 7 Mag for Bull Elk and Moose. I have used quite a few different 25 caliber bullets, but my favorite that I always seem to come back to are 115 gr Nosler Partitions. They just work.

 

[MOJO67]

I've been running the 115 Nosler Ballistic Tip's almost exclusively in my 257's. It's an amazing killer and actually holds up quite well, even when started at a skosh over 3400 fps. I prefer them not only for their performance on game, but also for their accuracy. It's been the most consistently accurate bullet in the 3 different 257 Wby's I've owned. Furthermore, the 115 NBT offers the highest BC's of any mass produced .25 caliber projectile, sans the 115 Berger VLD...which I never had much luck with.