Well i really never have anything to post but ater trying these bullets {6.5mm 140gr. } I was amazed. For 3 years Ive been all Berger so far ,but have noticed that in some guns they can be a little to picky. I had groups in the 3/4in moa out of my savage in vlds and also target bt. To make this short all 3 bullets were seated touching with 60gr. Ramshot Magnum in 6.5x284. when done all five buners were touching and the bergers were nothing to write home about. Ive checked on these and have seen 2 guys use these for hunting so till this fall I will keep my fingers crossed and see what the will do.