My hunting bud has the 5-25 I think it is and 200 zero and dial made to 1000,shoots the 215's.He has no problem hitting steel or rocks out to 1000.Hes used this set up on several longer shots, one whitey buck in mtns in mid 700 range.
Ballistic Turrets
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Seems to be a lot of haters...but most the long range TV shows are using yardage based turrets and making great shots. I've ordered one for my 270 win. to go on my Nikon I'll see how it does.
Reloder28
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I started out studying MOA vs MIL. I quickly decided it was more learning than I was willing to do. Didn't understand why I couldn't range, dial & shoot. Finally I stumbled upon the ballistic turret and the aftermarket availability for most scopes. Coupled with Swarovski making the scope, I was very pleased.
Ballistic turrets involve some compromise in their accuracy of Point of Aim if any set of conditions, whether environmental conditions (air density - comprised of air pressure, temperature, humidity), angle of fire, direction of fire, bullet BC, and/or muzzle velocity, differ from the precise set of conditions for which the ballistic turret was designed. Which is why the guys that specialize in engaging targets or game under varying conditions to extreme long ranges (2 to 3 times the distances shown on the television LRH shows) will undoubtedly use turrets precisely calibrated in MOA or Mil. They need to eliminate every source of error, no matter how trivial, to help ensure their success.
If your hunting and target shooting are conducted at a similar elevation, in similar temperatures, and with the same bullet and MV for which the ballistic turret was designed, then the errors will be minimal and their use should be adequate for ranges out to 1000yd or so. They are a compromise of between simplicity and ease of use, versus accuracy. Nothing more, nothing less, in my opinion.
Ballistic turrets work well for a lot of hunters. They don't serve as well for those operating at extreme ranges, under variable conditions of use.
If your hunting and target shooting are conducted at a similar elevation, in similar temperatures, and with the same bullet and MV for which the ballistic turret was designed, then the errors will be minimal and their use should be adequate for ranges out to 1000yd or so. They are a compromise of between simplicity and ease of use, versus accuracy. Nothing more, nothing less, in my opinion.
Ballistic turrets work well for a lot of hunters. They don't serve as well for those operating at extreme ranges, under variable conditions of use.
Reloder28
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Cannot argue with that. What started it all for me was to be able to make a confident shot out to 500 yards. I didn't need the MOA vs. MIL scenario so I chose a simpler avenue which I believe will work well for me. If, at some point, I think I need to graduate to a more regal platform, I'll know which way to go.
This is why the G7 BR2 range finder is a great tool ! You program your ballistic turret in and it gives you the corrected shoot to distance and windage for the current conditions you're in at that moment. So it doesn't matter if you have MOA or yardage on your turret. It will correct it for you with one push of the button.
Reloder28
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Good point.
Canadian Bushman
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Yup!
Ballistic turrets are like training wheels. When your ready to start trying to get everything outta your machine, you dont need em.
And graduated reticles are key to spotting poor shots and making accurate corrections. I also use mine for range estimation if its foggy, or drizzling.
Also forgot to mention.... If you have a turret calibrated for a certain elevation and tempature... You also program those peramiters in the BR2 and it will calculate that into the ballistic equation as well.. Good tool to have for anyone shoot regularly at long distance !
Are there any other Range finders doing this same corrective technology?
There is a couple but not to the extent of the BR2. New lieca range finding binos have a program in them as well as the leupold RX1200. But they both don't take all the peramiters into consideration like the BR2. Hope that helps ya
lancetkenyon
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For those saying a ballistic turret is not in MOA (or MILs), you are not entirely correct. The clicks are still 1/4 MOA, but the markings on the turret are not marked in MOA, just approximate yardages. A 500 yard turret marking will still be somewhere around 7-8 MOA, or 28-32 clicks. But unless you get one specifically tailored to your load, your rifle, your environmentals, they are never 100% accurate. Especially once you stretch the rifles legs past 600-700 yards.
If you know where you will be hunting, and know the pressure, and know the temps, they work great. But a storm front moving in during a hunt changing temperatures and pushing the game to a different elevation meaning different barometric pressure from both altitude and weather, could sure ruin a once in a lifetime elk hunt if you miss a big bull due to the turrets now being thrown out the window.
Temps and pressure can make a big difference in ballistics due to air density. Humidity, not nearly as much.
These are just me personal observations and opinions. I have seen a few guys miss because of custom (or factory) turrets being inaccurate with different conditions.
If you know where you will be hunting, and know the pressure, and know the temps, they work great. But a storm front moving in during a hunt changing temperatures and pushing the game to a different elevation meaning different barometric pressure from both altitude and weather, could sure ruin a once in a lifetime elk hunt if you miss a big bull due to the turrets now being thrown out the window.
Temps and pressure can make a big difference in ballistics due to air density. Humidity, not nearly as much.
These are just me personal observations and opinions. I have seen a few guys miss because of custom (or factory) turrets being inaccurate with different conditions.
This is all very true... However with the BR2 all those calculations are done wether you have a custom turret or one in MOA.. You program your turret peramiters in and it calculates a real time shooting solution for the conditions your in..
