Wel I guess I better change my post to Lethbridge, the Mrs. has accepted a position down there, and as of this past weekend half of our stuff is in storage there now /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif The range down there goes 400-500yds(I think) and you need a range officer with you because the police were doing "training" exersizes and 2 stray rounds ended up going into some 4-plexes(just down from where we are going to be moving into). God thing is, is that I am now going to be 5 minutes from the range instead of 30-45min.