You can order scope with the cds dial, not any more than a like model $550 for a 4-14x40 in cabelas. They work as good as the other type dials, bdc that most agree that for the longer shots there is room for error for conditions.The dial is about 1/2 " high, 14 yr.old shot his bull at 540 w/dial up. The dial on a VX3 is $90 installed, about 1/2 labor, because a dial alone is $50. With install they give you a 1/4 moa dial standard, other scope models just calltheir custom shop and get a qoute