Any 2025 SHOT hopes, dreams, rumors?

[Troutslayer2]

I am disappointed that Swarovski's big thing is an el range in a new power. I've waited for years for them to add the features we are asking for, that competitor optics now have.

 

[WahooYahoo]

I saw Seekins put out the PH3 with some pretty welcome changes. They fanned on a couple of big ones though.

1. Barrel - Shorter barrels are not available. 22" is the shortest available in magnum cals
   • All steel barrels are only available with the ugly spiral fluting, which prevent me from chopping a barrel to my desired length. Carbon barrels, for obvious reasons, can not be chopped so, I would be relegated to buying a new rifle, and a new barrel and hiring a smith to chamber it.
   • Missed it on the twist rates for several cartridges, most notably the 6mm Creedmoor (8 twist) and .308 (11.25 twist). Again, I would be relegated to buying a new rifle, and a new barrel and hiring a smith to chamber it.
2. Adjustable cheek riser is less desirable due to the added weight. Safe to say every stock made today should have (which make the adj. riser unnecessary):
   • Negative comb. As a function of recoil management, it is a big deal.
   • Raised comb +/> the bore axis. The adjustable cheek is an unnecessay, weight adding option to having a properly designed butt-stock.
   • Heel (recoil pad) =+/> bore axis. Again, as a function of recoil management, it is a big deal.

Several of the changes Seekins made are exciting and innovative though. I dig it as a whole, but I can't get past a 6mm Creedmoor that I cant use the long and heavies in. 109, 110, 112, 115's need a 7.5 twist for me in Texas and strongly prefer a shorter barrel because everything I shoot wears a suppressor.

 

[comfisherman]

We pushed for better factory stock options and faster twist barrels in factory rifles 15 to 20 years ago when everything was a sporter styles rifle.... we've come so far.... maybe to far.

I'd like to try the 7mm b.c. however the rifles available are either savage or I'd need to grow out my beard, buy more flannel and a flat brim hat... get some sleeve tattoos and a set of bolt ons before they begin to look like good rifles to me. Sadly my truck doesn't squat, and I've never seen a tattoo I'd like... as such 75 of the 80 released rifles aren't likely for me.

I'd love a 20 inch stainless 70, 700, kimber 84, or the like in a basic threaded barrel with sporter configuration. Be a good walk around mid range rifle.

The new 2-10mark 5 HD reticle would work for me, gotta try and wrap my head around a 2700 for it.

Burris xtr 3 revamp makes me wish I'd bought a spare of the previous generation.

Vortex released a modular man purse.... leaning into that punch line harder than leupolds re hashing the same scope for decades.

Love my 30 shot 22 wmr smith and wesson. Would love a similar hi cap 22lr... but maybe next year.


Some years the beat part of shot, is making me grateful for what's already out....

 

[Justice1327]

I saw Seekins put out the PH3 with some pretty welcome changes. They fanned on a couple of big ones though.

1. Barrel - Shorter barrels are not available. 22" is the shortest available in magnum cals
   • All steel barrels are only available with the ugly spiral fluting, which prevent me from chopping a barrel to my desired length. Carbon barrels, for obvious reasons, can not be chopped so, I would be relegated to buying a new rifle, and a new barrel and hiring a smith to chamber it.
   • Missed it on the twist rates for several cartridges, most notably the 6mm Creedmoor (8 twist) and .308 (11.25 twist). Again, I would be relegated to buying a new rifle, and a new barrel and hiring a smith to chamber it.
2. Adjustable cheek riser is less desirable due to the added weight. Safe to say every stock made today should have (which make the adj. riser unnecessary):
   • Negative comb. As a function of recoil management, it is a big deal.
   • Raised comb +/> the bore axis. The adjustable cheek is an unnecessay, weight adding option to having a properly designed butt-stock.
   • Heel (recoil pad) =+/> bore axis. Again, as a function of recoil management, it is a big deal.

Several of the changes Seekins made are exciting and innovative though. I dig it as a whole, but I can't get past a 6mm Creedmoor that I cant use the long and heavies in. 109, 110, 112, 115's need a 7.5 twist for me in Texas and strongly prefer a shorter barrel because everything I shoot wears a suppressor.

What stock are you looking at that meets your expectations? I was looking at the TS Customs and also unknown munitions.

 

[Justice1327]

I believe I saw that ADG released their own resizing dies. And I believe their own annealing machine. Perhaps we can get some better dies for the Sherman Wildcats without breaking the bank on an EC sizing die. I'm not knocking it. I actually have one. It works great. It's just a tough pill to swallow.