Another help me pick a scope thread...ugggh

[dfanonymous]

I'm setting up my first long range rifle and don't know which scope to choose. I really want to buy something I'm happy with and not look back and wonder if I could've done better...buy once, cry once, I guess. But I also want to be judicious with my money. I'll spend it, but there has to be value there in return.

The gun I will be setting up is a Remington Sendero chambered in 338 RUM. The primary use for this gun will be hunting for elk hunting out to 1000 yards. However, I also would like to use the gun to ring steel out to a mile. Finally, I'd like to be able to move this scope to my varmint rifle(Remington .222 or ar-15 in 6.8 spc II) for night hunting, so illumination is necessary.

So for pure hunting purposes, it seems Swarovski and Zeiss are top of the line. For the long range target crowd it appears Nightforce, March, and Vortex are Popular. Finally, all my varmint hunting buddies are enamored with Trijicon.

So I need y'all to help me combine all these categories into the one best do all scope. I'm not above buying used either, so I anyone has suggestions there, I'm listening.

You want a top of the line do all scope with a buy once cry once mentality?
Schmidt and Bender PM2 5-25x56.
You'll be good for whatever.

 

[Toolhand]

I don't know why I didn't think about it earlier but the new Kahles 5-25i is what I would get in your situation. I'm actually considering replacing my gen 2 Rzr with that exact scope. It will do everything you are looking to do and the glass is top notch. Kahles is swaros tactical line

 

[Blackdirt Cowboy]

You want a top of the line do all scope with a buy once cry once mentality?
Schmidt and Bender PM2 5-25x56.
You'll be good for whatever.

That's actually the scope I want. I'm not sure I want to cry that hard though.

 

[Blackdirt Cowboy]

I like that kahles, too. Looks like I might have to save my shekels a little longer.

 

[werth338]

The Leupold Mark 5 has been getting a lot of positive reviews. I have looked through one at a hunting show and liked the glass. I don't have any other experience with it past that so take it for what it's worth. I like Kahles as well and have thought about the K318.

 

[dfanonymous]

That's actually the scope I want. I'm not sure I want to cry that hard though.

Well, at least you have good taste sir.

 

[Bamahogger]

I'm setting up my first long range rifle and don't know which scope to choose. I really want to buy something I'm happy with and not look back and wonder if I could've done better...buy once, cry once, I guess. But I also want to be judicious with my money. I'll spend it, but there has to be value there in return.

The gun I will be setting up is a Remington Sendero chambered in 338 RUM. The primary use for this gun will be hunting for elk hunting out to 1000 yards. However, I also would like to use the gun to ring steel out to a mile. Finally, I'd like to be able to move this scope to my varmint rifle(Remington .222 or ar-15 in 6.8 spc II) for night hunting, so illumination is necessary.

So for pure hunting purposes, it seems Swarovski and Zeiss are top of the line. For the long range target crowd it appears Nightforce, March, and Vortex are Popular. Finally, all my varmint hunting buddies are enamored with Trijicon.

So I need y'all to help me combine all these categories into the one best do all scope. I'm not above buying used either, so I anyone has suggestions there, I'm listening.

DUDE!!! Just got an email from midway ,, they have their discontinued swavorski non illuminated x5's on sale, 25% off. Check it out. Also , check with len and the long range shop, they may be putting there's on sale too

 

[Deleted member 25294]

The Leupold Mark 5 has been getting a lot of positive reviews. I have looked through one at a hunting show and liked the glass. I don't have any other experience with it past that so take it for what it's worth. I like Kahles as well and have thought about the K318.

I would really recommend the Leupold MK5 HD as well.
I am extremely impressed with mine, i got the MOA model with the PR1-MOA reticle and it's very useful.
The Eye box is extremely forgiving making it really easy to track my own shots.
For ELR it has 120 MOA of adjustment, I recently did a tall target tracking test and it was perfect.

 

[KyCarl]

I have been using a IOR Valdada Recon and a Nightforce ATACR C-545 here lately
Both are as HEAVY as they can get! BUT both of them can be trusted!
I can count on them working every time and that means a lot to me!

 

[23ELKHUNTER]

I'm setting up my first long range rifle and don't know which scope to choose. I really want to buy something I'm happy with and not look back and wonder if I could've done better...buy once, cry once, I guess. But I also want to be judicious with my money. I'll spend it, but there has to be value there in return.

The gun I will be setting up is a Remington Sendero chambered in 338 RUM. The primary use for this gun will be hunting for elk hunting out to 1000 yards. However, I also would like to use the gun to ring steel out to a mile. Finally, I'd like to be able to move this scope to my varmint rifle(Remington .222 or ar-15 in 6.8 spc II) for night hunting, so illumination is necessary.

So for pure hunting purposes, it seems Swarovski and Zeiss are top of the line. For the long range target crowd it appears Nightforce, March, and Vortex are Popular. Finally, all my varmint hunting buddies are enamored with Trijicon.

So I need y'all to help me combine all these categories into the one best do all scope. I'm not above buying used either, so I anyone has suggestions there, I'm listening.

2 guns one scope, with night illumination....
My take is 2 scopes ATN XSIGHT 4 K PRO 3X14 DAY NIGHT SCOPE WITH BALLISTIC CALLUCULATOR LINKED TO LASER RANGE FINDER. DOES ALL COMPUTING AND ADJUSTING. Video recording. Good at night about 300yrds. $650 FOR SCOPE , IR $150-$200 , LASER RANGE FINDER $2-300.
THEN DEDICATED LONG RANGE SCOPE FOR 338.
You can do one scope, but huge difference in caliber choices, velocities, bc, will need lots of range time to verify all dope changes, even with ballistic CALLUCULATOR, g7 range finder(which I have, works well), charts, etc
Just money well spent . In my opinion...

 

[Whitehot]

I have a Nightforce 4-16x50 atacr and a 4-16x42f1 on my hunting rifles they are very hard to beat!

If you want the most bang for the buck than look at the Burris XTR. They have no questions asked warranty which Nightforce, Swarovski and Zeiss do not have. If I am going to spend 2k to 2.5k on one I don't want to pay to have it fixed. I have a Razor and Burris.

 

[23ELKHUNTER]

2 guns one scope, with night illumination....
My take is 2 scopes ATN XSIGHT 4 K PRO 3X14 DAY NIGHT SCOPE WITH BALLISTIC CALLUCULATOR LINKED TO LASER RANGE FINDER. DOES ALL COMPUTING AND ADJUSTING. Video recording. Good at night about 300yrds. $650 FOR SCOPE , IR $150-$200 , LASER RANGE FINDER $2-300.
THEN DEDICATED LONG RANGE SCOPE FOR 338.
You can do one scope, but huge difference in caliber choices, velocities, bc, will need lots of range time to verify all dope changes, even with ballistic CALLUCULATOR, g7 range finder(which I have, works well), charts, etc
Just money well spent . In my opinion...

If you already have a clip on night vision/ thermal, I would look at a sightron 5x20x50 tracking is dead on. $450. Then invest in your long range scope. I wouldn't want to switch scopes, and spend time and ammo verifying dope.
I remember my first long range set up, kept it easy n simple... back then didn't have all technology, which can help or hinder.
Whatever you decide, have fun, and get someone new into shooting !
Good luck.

 

[BJH]

I would recommend looking at all of the variables when considering a scope. I understand saving weight on a hunting rifle. But a Sendero rifle chambered in 338 RUM is not exactly a lightweight rifle. When I built my 1st long range hunting rifle I did so on a sendero rifle. I ended up going with the Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x50. With the scope and a bipod the rifle weighs just over 18#. And it has been used as a backcountry pack rifle for a lot of years. The reason I went with the Nightforce for a hunting rifle is the internal adjustment of 100 MOA, Zero-Stop, tracking, and glass/build quality. I put a Nightforce 40 MOA rail on the gun and have yet to run out of elevation. I decided that I would be the limiting factor in how far I can shoot instead of having my gun or optics limit me. You have a rifle capable of shooting a LONG ways! Don't put a scope that will limit the rifle or yourself. I would highly recommend the Nightforce NXS or ATAC-R for a hunting scope!

 

[HunterLongRange]

I'd be confident in recommending a Vortex Razor HD Gen 2 that has illuminated reticle and a 4.5 x 27 x 56 power. A little heavy, but you said something paramount in your question. When it comes to buying something...there is a big difference in Cost and Value.
Cost is what you pay for something.
Value is what you get.
And I believe there's is a lot of value in the scope mentioned above.