Raptor Shooter
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- Dec 10, 2012
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Guys,
Took my AR50 out today for the first time. Unfortunately I'm having issue getting on paper (I'm talking can't hit a 4' x 4' plywood target at 200 yards....embarrassing but confusing enough that I'm looking for help ). Just want to get some thoughts on what I may be overlooking. Note that at the same distance on the same range I can shoot sub MOA with my Bushmaster AR15.
Rifle - Left Hand AR50
Scope - Nightforce NXS 5.5 x 22 x 56 w/ NPR-1 reticle
Mount / Rings - Nightforce Unimoumt
Rounds - 750 grain Hornady AMAX factory loads
Distance - 200 yards
Range Slope ~ 6 degrees down hill measure with Nightforce ADI
Wind - Minimal....less than 5 mph crosswind
General Comments
Rifle was new in box. Swabbed barrel and chamber and lightly oiled both prior to shooting.
Bench is a custom 4' x 6' bench I built specifically to handle this gun.
Rest is a Rock River Jr under the forearm and bean bag in back. No movement even when not shouldering rifle.
When mounting the scope I used bubble levels immediately in front of scope base to level rifle longitudinally and transversely. I then mounted scope and leveled with bubble level on elevation adjustment knob initially followed by fine tuning using a plum bob at ~ 25 yards. After verifying all levels I torqued the Unimout and ring screws per Nightforce.
Prior to shooting I bore sighted with laser at 50 yards (max distance I could see laser) to 2 inches high (~theoretical bullet rise I per Hornady). I then backed up and fired x2 shots shots at 200 yards (both clean misses). At that point it was dark enough to see bore sight laser at 200. I had to adjust two clicks down and 1 left (theoretical 0" bullet drop / rise per Hornady....ie "dead on"). I then fired two more shots and neither cut the plywood.
I figured I was flinching as I have never had trouble sighting in. I've got the same exact scope except its 3.5 x 15 x 50 on my AR15 and I can shoot sub MOA from the same exact spot. At that point I had my buddy film me on the 3rd and 4th shots and on both I appear stock still. For y'all's info the recoil is comparable to my 30-06 but the shock wave is quite significant which I anticipated. In other words maybe I got the usual "wiggles" but nothing significant.
Thought on the issues.....?
The only thing I can see is possibly parallax issues. I'm no expert on correctly setting this but I followed Nightforce directions and I can't see it effecting the bullet flight that much. Y'all's thoughts?
Anything else I might have overlooked? Is the 6 degree down slope significant enough to have this effect. Haven't worked ballistics yet but I can't see it being the culprit.
Thanks,
Josh
Took my AR50 out today for the first time. Unfortunately I'm having issue getting on paper (I'm talking can't hit a 4' x 4' plywood target at 200 yards....embarrassing but confusing enough that I'm looking for help ). Just want to get some thoughts on what I may be overlooking. Note that at the same distance on the same range I can shoot sub MOA with my Bushmaster AR15.
Rifle - Left Hand AR50
Scope - Nightforce NXS 5.5 x 22 x 56 w/ NPR-1 reticle
Mount / Rings - Nightforce Unimoumt
Rounds - 750 grain Hornady AMAX factory loads
Distance - 200 yards
Range Slope ~ 6 degrees down hill measure with Nightforce ADI
Wind - Minimal....less than 5 mph crosswind
General Comments
Rifle was new in box. Swabbed barrel and chamber and lightly oiled both prior to shooting.
Bench is a custom 4' x 6' bench I built specifically to handle this gun.
Rest is a Rock River Jr under the forearm and bean bag in back. No movement even when not shouldering rifle.
When mounting the scope I used bubble levels immediately in front of scope base to level rifle longitudinally and transversely. I then mounted scope and leveled with bubble level on elevation adjustment knob initially followed by fine tuning using a plum bob at ~ 25 yards. After verifying all levels I torqued the Unimout and ring screws per Nightforce.
Prior to shooting I bore sighted with laser at 50 yards (max distance I could see laser) to 2 inches high (~theoretical bullet rise I per Hornady). I then backed up and fired x2 shots shots at 200 yards (both clean misses). At that point it was dark enough to see bore sight laser at 200. I had to adjust two clicks down and 1 left (theoretical 0" bullet drop / rise per Hornady....ie "dead on"). I then fired two more shots and neither cut the plywood.
I figured I was flinching as I have never had trouble sighting in. I've got the same exact scope except its 3.5 x 15 x 50 on my AR15 and I can shoot sub MOA from the same exact spot. At that point I had my buddy film me on the 3rd and 4th shots and on both I appear stock still. For y'all's info the recoil is comparable to my 30-06 but the shock wave is quite significant which I anticipated. In other words maybe I got the usual "wiggles" but nothing significant.
Thought on the issues.....?
The only thing I can see is possibly parallax issues. I'm no expert on correctly setting this but I followed Nightforce directions and I can't see it effecting the bullet flight that much. Y'all's thoughts?
Anything else I might have overlooked? Is the 6 degree down slope significant enough to have this effect. Haven't worked ballistics yet but I can't see it being the culprit.
Thanks,
Josh