Absolutely Disgusting

[26Reload]

But there are some that drive up to a spot..get out and shoot at a critter..since it didn't fall over they didn't hit it....and drive off...

 

[Pdvdh]

The scenario you began this Thread with was nothing like that.

There's losers in all walks of life. What do we do about it with respect to other hunters? Criticize the ones trying to do it right, yet somehow falling short of higher standards?

 

[yobuck]

A mentor I used to archery hunt with became so excited he bit through the stem of his corncob pipe one morning when some whitetails approached very closely. Never even got an arrow off due to his excitement.

Hunted moose with a guy that became so excited he functionally locked up. I wa spotting for him. Let him know the bull moose was legal to shoot. Told him to get ready, that the bull might appear in the one and only opening allowing a clear shot. The bull obliged us and stopped in the middle of that opening, perfect broadside exposure. I had already put the earplugs in and told my buddy again the bull was legal. Go ahead and shoot. I turned to see that my hunting partner didn't have his rifle in his hands, didn't have any shells in the rifle, was searching for ear plugs and for his shells, and had done nothing to prep for the 375yd shot. Brain freeze. The bull move on and he never even got off a shot. This was a second event for him. He'd been a law enforcement office for 10yrs. Simply too much excitement to maintain mental/functional control. Know another guy that ejected every live round in his Remington pump action 30-06 as a mature dall ram ran past him. He fired one round. The animal couldn't climb up and away. It turned and came toward him and cut across the face of the hill above him - 75yds away. He thought he was shooting and couldn't understand how he could have missed. He was so shook up he couldn't even stand or speak. His legs wouldn't support his weight. He didn't believe he hadn't fired the rounds until he'd calmed down and his partner pointed to all the live rounds laying on the ground where he said he'd shot from. Pretty nuts.

There are multiple reasons bad shots occur when hunting with recurve and long bows while shooting instinctively or even with a couple simple pins being used for sights. It can be as simple as the deer jumps at the string noise and moves before the arrow reaches them. My best three archery shots ever were all foiled by animals that jumped the noise of my recurve bow string. One red fox, one whitetail deer, one caribou. They were all longish shots, and arrows that would otherwise have been through the lungs instead impacted mid-height in the rear hams on the deer and caribou. The red fox was so quick, he was able to flip over on back and track the flight of the arrow while it passed just above his body. Lightning reflexes even though he was completely unaware and looked as relaxed as could be. Modern compound bows send the arrows fast enough that the animals have much less time to react to the bow noise.

Never known a hunter with the goal of poor shot placement. I've known some that overlooked or neglected some pretty basic preparatory steps which later foiled their best efforts. We prepare and then do the best we can with whatever circumstances develop. For better or worse - that's hunting.

This was my 70th year hunting, and i can recall hearing the stories of ejecting all the shells on the ground even back then.
It's been at least 50 years since ive owned a 760 Rem, but i don't recall being able to do that without firing the gun.
I'll have to confirm that with friends who have them.

 

[Pdvdh]

This was my 70th year hunting, and i can recall hearing the stories of ejecting all the shells on the ground even back then.
It's been at least 50 years since ive owned a 760 Rem, but i don't recall being able to do that without firing the gun.
I'll have to confirm that with friends who have them.

The point being?

My information is straight from the partner that located all the live rounds on the ground. First hand reporting. The guy that ejected the rounds would never tell me any of the details, other than to say he missed the biggest ram ever as it ran past him broadside at 75yds. Never told me he frooze up like an ice cube. Said the ram was so old that he couldn't climb up the mountain slope and out of danger. Had to drop down and cut across the slope to escape.
I've owned and operated many Remington pump action shotguns. None will eject the rounds without manually unlocking an action release lever, or, pulling the trigger. I fully expect the same is required with the 760. Otherwise the action would simply open repeatedly on its own while carried and be completely unreliable for hunting.
The hunting buddy that told me what happened was within easy hearing distance. He killed a ram out of the same band of animals. He heard one shot only.
Now if the rattled hunter never even realized the shells weren't being fired, you don't think he could have unlocked the action in the manner required to eject the live rounds by pumping the action back and forward repetitively? Which is why I never questioned the story from the partner that was there and told me the details. He didn't see it while it happened. He was shooting a ram a short distance away. After confirming his ram was down for keeps, he walked over to his buddy to get the rest if the story and found him incoherent and slurring words.

 

[26Reload]

I wonder how many guys have done the emptying the cartridges onto the ground...I have heard it from three or four sources...I guess now it is four or five...
My oldest brother has a 760...and if anyone would empty it..he would....

 

[mtwarych]

I apologize to all forum members for not following the forum rules.

 

[Rich Coyle]

I wonder how many guys have done the emptying the cartridges onto the ground...I have heard it from three or four sources...I guess now it is four or five...
My oldest brother has a 760...and if anyone would empty it..he would....

You can add one more. A friend of mine used to guide. He put a client on a nice buck. The client even reacted to the recoil as the rifle fired but missed every time. The client was baffled. The guide indicated all the cartridges he bolted out without pulling the trigger even once.

 

[ctw]

I was 14 years old and it was the 2nd week of buck season in pa. I would get off the school bus at about 4:00 pm throw on my hunting clothes and head for this spot in the woods on our family farm and sit watching what looked like a decent deer trail. The rifle I was using was a trusted old savage 340 chambered in the .30-.30 win. with open sights. I hadn't been there no more than a 1/2 hour when I saw this 6 pt. appear in the corner of my eye off to my left walking along no more than 35 yards away. I waited for his head to get on the other side of a tree before I raised my rifle up to shoot so as for him to not see me. I took deliberate aim and fired my first shot only to see the buck continue on his way walking along still unaware of my presence. At that point all I thought was that I had missed and I was going to get a second opportunity. I shot a third time then a fourth time only to see him walk off out of sight. I frantically looked for blood but saw none. I knew I had to have hit him. I ran back to the farm house and told my dad about the event. We had about 20 minutes of day light left before it would turn to dark. My dad and I headed up in the woods to see if he could help me spot some blood so that we might be able to find the buck. We looked for awhile to only come up empty handed. Dad wanted to know where I was standing when I took my shots to get a better perspective of the angle that I was shooting from. As we approached where I was standing my dad saw some .30-.30 cartridges laying on the ground and wanted to know if I had dropped them out of my pocket. I told him no as I always had the clip loaded with 4 rounds ready for me every night so all I had to do was put the clip in and head out. I assured him that I carried no other shells. He surmised that I had to have ejected them with out ever firing a one of them. He told me it looked like I must have gotten a case of buck fever. Believe me when I tell you that I swear that I heard every shot go off. The evidence was hard to repute. To this day that haunts me yet. So here is another one to add to the thread. ctw

 

[26Reload]

Okay...ratting yourself out counts....anyone else want to rat themselves out for this.....

 

[Crowe284]

You can add one more. A friend of mine used to guide. He put a client on a nice buck. The client even reacted to the recoil as the rifle fired but missed every time. The client was baffled. The guide indicated all the cartridges he bolted out without pulling the trigger even once.

When I read this I almost died! I haven't laughed that hard in a while! Just picturing it my head, they guy reacting to recoil that wasent there just tears me up!! Hilarious!!

 

[CaptnC]

I know of two times that live rounds were flipped out in the leaves.

First one was a guy who normally only went to deer camp to cook. He had not shot a deer in over 10 years. He decided to got out one morning and encounter the bidet buck he had seen in the wild (which most likely was not very big)...he emptied his Savage 99 in into the leaves but thought he had pulled the trigger. No one heard him shoot so they went to see if there was any sign of the deer being hit.

He still swears he fired all three shello at the deer but they were all still loaded in the leaves.

Then my dad shucked a shell out onto the ground one time my mother shot a buck. He was so geared to get another round in the chamber that he did it on instinct.

 

[Rich Coyle]

Then my dad shucked a shell out onto the ground one time my mother shot a buck. He was so geared to get another round in the chamber that he did it on instinct.

That is certainly getting into the game.

 

[TwoMore]

But there are some that drive up to a spot..get out and shoot at a critter..since it didn't fall over they didn't hit it....and drive off...

"lord help me to change the things I can control, and accept the things I cannot"

I bow hunt probably as much as I gun hunt. It is bad ju ju for me to judge another bow hunter. I have bow hunted for 35 years and a bad shot has many factors. The older I get the more I think about the kill and what it all means.

 

[26Reload]

I turn 51 tomorrow...I started bow hunting before I was legal to drive myself to a place to hunt..but you didn't hear that here......right...
I have taken a lot of deer and about 8 bull elk with my bow....but I have to admit.......I ate tag soup a lot......not because I didn't get well within range of something to take...but most of the time because whatever I could have shot wasn't what I wanted to shoot....
I have had herds of elk walk within yards of me..not in a blind but stalking and getting into position and the right animal didn't show...
I carried a lot of arrows in my quiver...broadheads, judos and rubber blunts...many of elk in the back of a herd got a blunt in the butt after they passed....great practice hiking 3 or 4 miles in and not seeing the the target animal....most of the elk didn't even react to being hit in the butt by a rubber blunt....just kept pace with the others....
Practice, patience and desire are a huge factor to a great result of a hunt....whether or not a kill is made....