A Few Quick Questions

[Grey Goast]

Find out the kick force of the ones you use and the ones that are recommended and you can make a clearer choice most 308 have a fare amount of kick.

 

[berger21]

I own a 7mm08 in a youth rifle. It may fit you better than a standard rifle. That's what my wife and kids growing up used. My wife is 5' 3". I've loaned it out to young adults for elk hunting. It's taken 3 elk and many deer. They are a great rifle. Here is a link to a savage that is very budget friendly. Just add a good scope. https://yourammoshop.com/product/savage-youth-axis-7mm-08-remington-bolt-action-rifle/

 

[southernfella]

What does MOA stand for?

Are all bipods that attach to the front of a rifle stock pretty much the same, or does any one brand stand out as superior?

What caliber is closest to being exactly half way between 30-30 and 7mm PRC?

Best rifle strap for walking?

I'm sure you've had lots of answers so I'll just chime in with the 6.5prc suggestion. My good buddy and I both shoot light rifles with excellent accuracy out out if the box. They are a great choice for a lightweight, low recoiling laser beam that is fine for big game inside 400yds. My buddy took a large cow elk at 500 something yards and many deer at 6-700. I bought a $900cad rifle that shot the same hole at 100 and 1.5in at 300. Best of luck!

 

[TxHeartShot]

That may be an option but I don't think a muzzle brake shooting on horse back is a good idea, ok on the ATV.

That recoil is tamed but that horse is going to go ape-s**t

 

[TxHeartShot]

LOL, it looks like that scope comes with a lot of choices for a reticle. I hope the one you bought has hash marks on the horizontal line so you can learn about holding off for wind.

The other type of angular measure on ranging reticles is the milli-radian, or "mils" . These is a lot of information online about MOA and mils or you can ask for some help in understanding it.

I'm thinking about a 30-06. Recoil is certainly manageable and has enough thump to bust anything your going to come across. My ex-sister-in-law lives just outside of Troy MT and she has a Browning BLR in 30-06 that rides on the ATV with her, she even carries it when she walks down to the mailbox. You can buy ammo at the grocery store for it!

 

[264WM]

The 264WM is a good all around caliber. 85gr HP at 3827 fps, 100gr Ballistic Tip at 3700fps all the way up to 160gr Woodleigh PPSN up to 3200fps.

 

[Small Lady]

Not sure where you are in Canada ? But read a story grizzly killed a couple & their dog. Banff National Park was the location. You can read a few articles on Ammoland how black bears are killers also. Not usually I suppose. But at times they have been known to do weird things. https://ammoland.us7.list-manage.co...1bd879ef93102b3011&id=d3a070e47c&e=2bb4039108

50 kms from Prince George.

Blacks will kill, but infrequently.
While I have seen approximately 50 in my time here, all have been far more scared of me, than I was of them.
Coyotes are the main problem, they like to kill cattle, especially calves.
They are smart enough to most often stay far away from us people, making them a tough shot.
I wish that they would let us ride up to 50 meters away, but they don't.

 

[Small Lady]

I'm thinking about a 30-06. Recoil is certainly manageable and has enough thump to bust anything your going to come across. My ex-sister-in-law lives just outside of Troy MT and she has a Browning BLR in 30-06 that rides on the ATV with her, she even carries it when she walks down to the mailbox. You can buy ammo at the grocery store for it!

Is the 30-06 pretty flat to 300 yards?

 

[Small Lady]

Happy Thanksgiving to to you @Small Lady !! I hope you had a nice day and will have a nice evening.

Thanksgiving day Monday for me was about as perfect as a day can be, thank you.
Gabs saddled up her horse last minute when she saw me heading out, and wanted to come with me.

We got back, took care of our horses, then cleaned ourselves up, both found a dress to wear, we rarely dress up here, and then headed to the main house for a fabulous dinner.
Yesterday I flew with my boss to the city, where we had to do some business, and stayed over in a hotel.
This morning after an early meeting, we went and got the boss's wife's new vehicle, which I am driving home, while my boss flew home.
I have to take care of some business on the way home also, so today drove just part way, and am currently at a hotel, will get home sometime tomorrow, not sure when, i still have about 5 more hours of driving, and a few hours or so of business to take care of on my own.
Also going to stop at a few gun stores along the way, and see what they have, that I don't ever see in my local stores.

 

[Small Lady]

You guys have to remember she is in Canada. So you have to remember that a lot of things are not available up there like they are in the US. That being said I think the 7 prc will do about all you need till you get to grizzly. If you want a cheaper gun to run around with I would go with a savage in a 308with a a 3x9 scope great truck atv horse gun cheap to shoot 165 to 180 grain bullets

We definitely don't have the selection that some other countries do.
Thank you.

 

[Small Lady]

Justin- curious here. Have you easily carried an AR in a saddle scabbard? I haven't tried, but would think the magazine would be problematic. If not, it would be a good choice in .308. Reason I suggested the Henry was that there are few actions as comfortable and easy to carry in a saddle scabbard as the lever gun. In practiced hands, can be operated nearly as fast as semi-auto. I am a bolt gun guy myself, but can't deny that they are not nearly as comfortable under the leg as a lever gun. They can be carried butt backward to help- but I've known quite a few carried that way that ended up hooked on brush or otherwise out of the scabbard without the rider realizing it.

A lever is definitely an advantage in the scabbard.
Several coworkers have Brownings, and some others Henrys.

Having shot both, they are both wonderful, but I slightly prefer the BLR, and in a 6.5 creedmoor it was not much kick at all.
Wasn't a fan of the 45-70, 300, or 338 I've had a chance to shoot, they kick.
Never shot a 243, 30-06, 280, and I'm sure many others.

 

[blvette75]

Thank you very much!

And yes cartridge.
Was having a discussion yesterday with a few people about what's halfway between a 30-30 and 7mm prc.
I told them my wild guess was 270, but it was purely a guess.
The discussion arose after being asked if I was to ever buy another rifle, what would it be.
I said not sure, but something halfway between my 30-30 and 7mm prc possibly someday.
Then we got around to discussing what is halfway.
I don't know that much about rifles yet, but am learning.

Jokingly my boss keeps suggesting a 416, 375, or at a minimum 338, which I find funny. He thankfully has a great sense of humor, and I don't see myself going larger than my current 7mm.

I believe in between would be an 280 ACKLEY IMP you may want to look at this weatherby https://weatherby.com/store/markv-camilla-ultra-lightweight/ which is designed for women.

 

[Hand Skills]

Thank you very much!

Welcome aboard!

And yes cartridge.

Yes, that can be a sticky distinction around here.

Cartridge vs Caliber - know the difference!

Was having a discussion yesterday with a few people about what's halfway between a 30-30 and 7mm prc.
I told them my wild guess was 270, but it was purely a guess.

You've got pretty good intuition then. Intensity wise, the .270 Win is right about the middle between 30-30 and 7PRC. Technically the .270 diameter is smaller than either though, so it depends how you look at it.

The discussion arose after being asked if I was to ever buy another rifle, what would it be.
I said not sure, but something halfway between my 30-30 and 7mm prc possibly someday.
Then we got around to discussing what is halfway.
I don't know that much about rifles yet, but am learning.

Don't rush it - there is a lifetime of learning, enjoy the journey!

Jokingly my boss keeps suggesting a 416, 375, or at a minimum 338, which I find funny. He thankfully has a great sense of humor, and I don't see myself going larger than my current 7mm.

I think about cartridges differently than I once did.

I start by defining what I'm trying to do.

Then I find a few bullets that match up with my needs (weight, diameter, construction plays a big role too)

Then I'll try to define a muzzle velocity. Generally faster is better, but there are always tradeoffs (mostly in the recoil.department!)

The other factor is barrel length - a 20" barrel is a lot easier to lug around, but a 30" barrel will have a huge velocity advantage - so there are always tradeoffs.

All cartridges hold a primer and a bullet - what separates them is the amount of powder they hold, or their 'Case Capacity'.

Only you can decode which one is going to give you the performance you are looking for!

270 Win is a great cartridge - flat shooting, relatively high power and relatively moderate recoil (a 6lb gun is going to kick a lot more than a 9lb rifle, all else equal!)

Beautiful part of the world you are in, I used to get up to Wells annually, but times have changed and I'm spending most of my time in Saskatchewan these days!

 

[Small Lady]

For what you are wanting - a rifle that will be big enough for protection against bears - and yet can be used for coyotes at distance, I would think the 308 is the best option with the limitations you set. The Henry Long Ranger is intriguing to me - it seems to have that compromise of a good scabbard gun, yet can reach out with accuracy. I don't own one (yet) so can't comment on personal experience. The best "fit" may be the Ruger American in its compact youth configuration. The 12.5" LOP and 18" barrel might make a great carry gun for saddle or 4 wheeler. Again, I haven't shot one of the youth models, but the regular models shoot really well. My first choice tho more expensive (but you didn't indicate that cost was a limiting factor and you're purchasing a fairly pricey scope, so cost may not be that big of an issue?) would be the new Springfield 2020 waypoint. I have one of those in 6 creedmoor and it's quickly becoming one of my favorite rifles. I like it better than some of my custom rifles that cost 2-3 times as much. The only thing I don't like about it for a walk around hunting rifle is that the safety doesn't lock the bolt, which can be aggravating when walking thru brush. The Tikka lite veil is another great choice, but it has a little longer barrel, so maybe not quite as handy. It also has a 1:11 twist, vs the 1:10 in the others, so might not shoot the heavier bullets, but for what you are after, that probably won't matter. The Sako lone wolf is not a bad choice either - I was actually looking at a used one in 270 WSM. But, like you, I would be hesitant to bounce that one around in a scabbard or ATV.
By the way, what is your 7 PRC? Maybe you said, but I missed it...
Also, love your pics and a little envious of your situation. Sometimes, I think all of us feel like just getting away from the hustle and bustle and back to a simpler life. You just had the nerve to do it!! Well played!!!

Thank you very much.
It is a Christensen Ridgeline 7mm prc.

I'm a huge disappointment to my family and some friends.

My parents and siblings think that I should have been a Dr, lawyer, or something more important, stayed in the big city, married a man who wears a suit to work, drive a fancy SUV, have perfectly manicured nails, dress up nicely, and be what they think I should be. I went into nursing out of pressure from my parents, not because it was my dream.

They were sad with me only being an RN, not at least a GP, preferably a Specialist.

My parents came up this summer for my birthday, and were even more appalled with me, and my career choice.
Guess that I'll just forever be the Black sheep of the family.
I'm not going back to the city, or nursing.
If I get fired, my dream would be to purchase my own farm.