Bruno's has the best price on those scopes. I'm a big Nikon fan, the glass is hard to beat and mine all work good but they are lacking in adjustment. The 6-24x50 Bushnell I had was mounted for two days and then replaced with the Sightron(which has 100 minutes of adjustment also). I haven't seen anything from Bushnell that compares.
90% of the performance, half the price?
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Bruno's has the best price on those scopes. I'm a big Nikon fan, the glass is hard to beat and mine all work good but they are lacking in adjustment. The 6-24x50 Bushnell I had was mounted for two days and then replaced with the Sightron(which has 100 minutes of adjustment also). I haven't seen anything from Bushnell that compares.
BIG MICK
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With the 338 edge and 20 moa rail i dont need anymore adjustment only thing i will say about sightron is they are a few hundred dollars cheaper than bushnell were i come from and our gun shops dont tend to stock them. When ever i called them the storeman answerd the phone and he didnt know jack **** .
Get the Sightron SIII. It's the best buy going that I know of for less than $1000.00.
I just completed a side-by-side comparison today using three of my own scopes.
SIII 6-24x50mm Mil-Dot.
IOR 3-18x42mm MP-8.
Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44mm Mil-Dot.
The SIII and the IOR were equally razor sharp in resolution at 300 yds. The Zeiss was good but enough poorer to note the difference.
The SIII had the highest light transmission, followed by the Zeiss, followed by the IOR. I believe the IOR has an additional lens or two to obtain the 6X power magnification and that reduces light transmission in this scope.
Approximate costs:
SIII ~ $800
Zeiss ~ $850-950 depending on whether you get target turrets.
IOR ~ $1565
Weight:
Zeiss 1" tube =17.5 oz
SIII 30mm tube = 21.9 oz
IOR = 28 oz
The IOR MP-8 reticle is a better reticle in my opinion. The other two both have the standard military Mil-Dot reticle.
I consider the SIII to be the best of these three scopes for daytime use, regardless of cost. When cost is included in the evaluation, the SIII is clearly the best buy - provided you're content with the 6-24 power range.
I just completed a side-by-side comparison today using three of my own scopes.
SIII 6-24x50mm Mil-Dot.
IOR 3-18x42mm MP-8.
Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44mm Mil-Dot.
The SIII and the IOR were equally razor sharp in resolution at 300 yds. The Zeiss was good but enough poorer to note the difference.
The SIII had the highest light transmission, followed by the Zeiss, followed by the IOR. I believe the IOR has an additional lens or two to obtain the 6X power magnification and that reduces light transmission in this scope.
Approximate costs:
SIII ~ $800
Zeiss ~ $850-950 depending on whether you get target turrets.
IOR ~ $1565
Weight:
Zeiss 1" tube =17.5 oz
SIII 30mm tube = 21.9 oz
IOR = 28 oz
The IOR MP-8 reticle is a better reticle in my opinion. The other two both have the standard military Mil-Dot reticle.
I consider the SIII to be the best of these three scopes for daytime use, regardless of cost. When cost is included in the evaluation, the SIII is clearly the best buy - provided you're content with the 6-24 power range.
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bwaites
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phorwath,
Thats a big help!! Thanks!!!
Bill
Thats a big help!! Thanks!!!
Bill
Got my curiosity..Which model?
Ernie,
Started with a S2, then Sightron replaced it with the Big Sky. Had tracting issues with it, so again they sent me another Big Sky. That scope would not hold point of aim, and the cross hairs would go out of focus after looking thru it for more than 3 seconds. So, I gave it to a friend who does short range hunting.Even thou Sightron tried to make it right, my time is to limited to spend on that brand again.
Started with a S2, then Sightron replaced it with the Big Sky. Had tracting issues with it, so again they sent me another Big Sky. That scope would not hold point of aim, and the cross hairs would go out of focus after looking thru it for more than 3 seconds. So, I gave it to a friend who does short range hunting.Even thou Sightron tried to make it right, my time is to limited to spend on that brand again.
understood. Thanks for the explanation.
I was wondering if it was one of the S-3's.
I was wondering if it was one of the S-3's.
BIG MICK
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If you go back thru past comments from people on this forum it seems the only model sightron that attracts any positive comments is the S3.
I may be missing something here but for 750.00, you are in LR Leupold territory, especially if you shop the classifieds. I've seen several in the last month or so in the 650 to 750 range.
If I had 2 grand I would prob get a nite force but all in all I think the LR Leupolds is still a hard scope to beat for the dollars.
PS with Leupold's life time warranty there is no down side to buying used, if it ain't right they will fix it for just the price of shipping it to them: 308
If I had 2 grand I would prob get a nite force but all in all I think the LR Leupolds is still a hard scope to beat for the dollars.
PS with Leupold's life time warranty there is no down side to buying used, if it ain't right they will fix it for just the price of shipping it to them: 308
topwater225
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Could be true. I have only had experience with the SIII and there are even two models hanging around...an older model and newer model SIII.
I have had both, not knowing there was an older model until I got it and compared it to the newer model that I already had. The newer model has better glass and turrets and is a couple of hundred $$ increase over the old model. So, if you go with the SIII just make sure it's the newest model.
I got my newest model SIII from Larry D. Scott ([email protected]) for $715, I believe....Great guy and great service. I got it "sight unseen" as I couldn't find a local shop that carried them. I heard they were really good for the price so I called Larry and he convinced me to try one. By the way....Larry is a Leupold guy too.
There isn't a Leupold in that price range that compares to the SIII. I wouldn't have believed until I received the SIII and compared it to my VXIII's.......I'm not sure that even the Mark 4 is a better scope, and the Mark 4 is almost double the price.
BTW....the scope tracks great too. I have been up and down so many MOA's since I got it and it always goes back to zero without a hitch.
Buffalobob
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It would be interesting if someone would post up links to threads on this forum were the S3 scopes were actually used to kill some animals at long range. By long range I mean over 800 yards.
What would that tell us about the scope?
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I know that I am a little bias, but below is some feed back from customers that have purchased and seen the Clearidge Ultra XP5.
1. Had one customer purchase two Bushnell Elite 6500's only to send them back to Bushnell for his money back and has purchase 4 of the Ultra XP5 since.
2. Another customer who was hunting with a friend who had a Nightforce said that he really could not tell much of a difference between the Ultra XP5 and his friends Nightforce.
3. Third, had a customer inform us that he did some testing against his Zeiss Conquest and really could not tell a big difference.
4. Reviews on Longrangehunting shows them to very favorable against the Zeiss Conquest, better than the Nikon Monarch X and even tough to tell the difference between the XP5 and an older S&B worth $2000.00.
1. Had one customer purchase two Bushnell Elite 6500's only to send them back to Bushnell for his money back and has purchase 4 of the Ultra XP5 since.
2. Another customer who was hunting with a friend who had a Nightforce said that he really could not tell much of a difference between the Ultra XP5 and his friends Nightforce.
3. Third, had a customer inform us that he did some testing against his Zeiss Conquest and really could not tell a big difference.
4. Reviews on Longrangehunting shows them to very favorable against the Zeiss Conquest, better than the Nikon Monarch X and even tough to tell the difference between the XP5 and an older S&B worth $2000.00.
