7 PRC/7SAUM Velocities

[dogz]

24 inch 7 SAUM with RL 26 and a Berger 180 HVLD. Right at 2900 fps. Killing machine. Likely over 50 animals now including 3 eland.
Bruce

If you don't mind me asking Bruce how much 26?

 

[Longtine88]

I run the saum out of a 22" suppressed on 2 rifles with 180's at 2,950 - 2,960. 26" pushing 180's at 3,020 and 27" pushing 195's at 2,940 - 2,960. I hate posting these numbers cause of the haters. "You're way too hot". BS. I'm anywhere from 3 - 7 loadings on Adg cases. Sure I throw 1 away out of 30 each loading but that's me. I'm still alive, no blown up chambers, gas in my face, cracked cases nothing. So either load it like that or go find a 7prc. I've loaded for two prc's and I'm not impressed. Give me the saum all day.

 

[crashlanding]

I run the saum out of a 22" suppressed on 2 rifles with 180's at 2,950 - 2,960. 26" pushing 180's at 3,020 and 27" pushing 195's at 2,940 - 2,960. I hate posting these numbers cause of the haters. "You're way too hot". BS. I'm anywhere from 3 - 7 loadings on Adg cases. Sure I throw 1 away out of 30 each loading but that's me. I'm still alive, no blown up chambers, gas in my face, cracked cases nothing. So either load it like that or go find a 7prc. I've loaded for two prc's and I'm not impressed. Give me the saum all day.

No hate here, that's what I would expect out of that cartridge along with the wsm, rem mag and prc out of properly built and throated rifles. The bottom line to me is we're all trying to defend the cartridge we're running but there really is no need for that. They all work, velocity differences are negligible, my elk is as dead as your elk so they all kill, we strive for little groups and a few achieve that, I think we just like to argue with each other It's late winter and cabin fever has set in. The longer a thread like this goes on, the more heated it gets

 

[Phil Rizzo]

Are these SAUM velocities coming from a SA? Or
medium-long?

 

[ZSteinle]

Not exactly what your looking for but
7 max
22"
Med action
Running 162 eldx at 2940 fps. Only 80 rounds through it so it might speed up.

 

[Longtine88]

Are these SAUM velocities coming from a SA? Or
medium-long?

Long action. They are all throated long for the heavies. I have 7 saums and they are all on long action. You want performance for get the short actions.

 

[Jakeweb09]

I've got no hate for the prc, Saum just seems more efficient. Both are great cartridges and I wouldn't hesitate to grab either. I'm a little salty about the possibility of losing Saum brass at some point due to the prc popularity. Pre-prc Saum brass flew off the shelves and now it seems to sit, and I can't help to think manufactures notice this too

 

[Phil Rizzo]

That's what I figured, but didn't know for sure on the length.
Im using XM+ anyhow, with Sherman SS and Max.
Hawkins Hunter mag gives me about .100 extra room.

 

[EMC2015]

I load for 2 different saums. 1 on a SA, 1 on a medium. Both run the same node at 2940ish in 24" barrels with Rl23/175EH. Comfortably without pressure.

The medium runs 60.7gr on a .220" FB.
SA runs 59.9gr In a short FB saami chamber.

 

[Longtine88]

I load for 2 different saums. 1 on a SA, 1 on a medium. Both run the same node at 2940ish in 24" barrels with Rl23/175EH. Comfortably without pressure.

The medium runs 60.7gr on a .220" FB.
SA runs 59.9gr In a short FB saami chamber.

That RL23 and the 175 is a great combo. It shoots in every rifle I've tried.

 

[EMC2015]

N560/175s also

That RL23 and the 175 is a great combo. It shoots in every rifle I've tried.

 

[Longtine88]

N560/175s also

Yeah it too. And N565.

 

[gillettehunter]

If you don't mind me asking Bruce how much 26?

I'm using 61.7 grains. That bullet at that speed seems to be a sweet spot as far as performance on animals. I've had several African PH's ask what bullet I was using. My kills have been from 50 yds to 611. Been a great combo for me.
Buce

 

[Rick Richard]

Yeah it too. And N565.

Which one do you prefer better? RL23 or N565…..putting you on the spot. lol.