6mm Creedmoor first elk hunt

[dogz]

Holy **** boys don't you think 20 pages of expert opinions is enough. Time for forum boss to shut this down

And for fun, what kind of hog leg should one carry as what if 13 raging grizzly bears decided to charge you...
. Lots of silliness in this thread eh

 

[khart1988]

This is your opinion and not a fact. My position is still the same, just because a caliber has and can kill an elk, it doesn't mean it's the right tool for the job. I believe the thread started with asking a simple question as to what people thought about using his 6mm he obviously likes and is comfortable with or borrow a 7mm to hunt his elk. My statement stands - I would go with the 7mm in my experience. You can have a different opinion but trying to belittle others for their opinion shows only that you need to rule the conversation and everyone needs to listen to what you say. That's arrogant and doesn't hold water to those in the know.

I love that you state that the empirical, inarguable evidence of how bullets upset and kill, known to all bullet manufacturers, is my "opinion," then state your own opinion about the right tool for the job of killing an elk as "fact."

You then went on to say I belittled you for your "opinion." At this point, I'm not sure that you understand the difference.

You made a nonsensical statement, I'm sorry making light of that offended you. Perhaps grow some thicker skin if you're willing to publicly argue that someone is wrong?

 

[7mm man]

And for fun, what kind of hog leg should one carry as what if 13 raging grizzly bears decided to charge you...
. Lots of silliness in this thread eh

I suggest a sharp toothpick or maybe just a nasty fart will work in a pinch.

 

[Fenix Outdoors]

Yeah, this hypothetical and every other question has been asked and answered, with visuals, testimonials and insight.

 

[Fenix Outdoors]

My concern is this, what if you see the bull of a lifetime, he is moving through quick. The only shot you have is 500 yards quartering hard to you. Don't ask why that would be your only shot as it probably wouldn't be the case but just hypothetical here. Your only shot is through that hard shoulder to the vitals. Could a 6mm bonded or monometal bullet do the job, maybe and likely has for some foljs here. But man I sure would feel better with that 175 Nosler accubond smashing right through that tough muscle and bone. I am sure the 6mm kills great but through bone and muscle I would feel better with something heavier. But then again, I am the 7mm man so I am biased. I am going to have to check out those DTAC nosering bullets though for some local Whitetails.

7mm man, just a heads up, the DTAC is my preferred bullet of choice for elk, however, I would consider using the 108 ELD-M as a whitetail bullet before the 115 DTAC Noserings (NR) if you're just going to buy the standard DTAC NRs offered on their site, as the standard-depth cut DTAC NRs will have a delayed upset (about 4" - 5"), where the 108 ELD-M is an excellent bullet for deer, and will upset within 2" - 2.5" of entry.
If you call David Tubbs office, you can special order deeper cut DTACS to 0.50" that will upset quicker.

 

[7mm man]

7mm man, just a heads up, the DTAC is my preferred bullet of choice for elk, however, I would consider using the 108 ELD-M as a whitetail bullet before the 115 DTAC Noserings (NR) if you're just going to buy the standard DTAC NRs offered on their site, as the standard-depth cut DTAC NRs will have a delayed upset (about 4" - 5"), where the 108 ELD-M is an excellent bullet for deer, and will upset within 2" - 2.5" of entry.
If you call David Tubbs office, you can special order deeper cut DTACS to 0.50" that will upset quicker.

Appreciate the info, 4"-5" makes a big difference in something smaller like a deer. I have shot plenty of bucks with a ELD-X, never a ELD-M. What is funny is Hornady does not recommend the ELD-M for hunting, but people seem to use them all the time on this site just fine. Hornady claims the jacketing is not thinned out enough at the front like the ELD-X is. Apparently it doesn't matter. I have also heard people claim if you hit animals at 3000 fps or greater with a close shot with ELD's that they will grenade and explode near the surface. I have never seen this happen myself though, all the deer I have shot with ELD-X's have been 2000 fps to 2600 fps by the time it hit them.

 

[RockyRandy]

Can you tell us about all the elk you shot with the 6MM Creedmoor? I'm interested. I'd like to understand what you're basing your opinion on. For me this is a bit academic since I don't own a 6MM Creedmoor.

My response has nothing to do with owning or killing an Elk with a 6 Creed, It has everything to do with the ELDM bullet that was recommended. The ELDM is a target bullet and it is built with a thinner copper jacket. ELDX bullet is built for hunting game. I learned this the hard way some 30 years ago when I shot a 3 point buck that came running pass me and the first shot was at 25 yards with a 7 mag. It kept running towards me and I shot it again at 15 yards, and was going to shoot it again but didn't because I seen and knew that I had hit it 2 times. I trailed the buck up hill for another 1/2 mile and picked up pieces of bone as I followed it and then it quit bleeding and I lose the buck. I could believe that I didn't kill it and asked a couple of friend how it was possible and the older and wise man told me that the type of bullet I was using wasn't made for the high velocity that I was shooting at that close range and he told me to use (swift scirocco bullet).
Sorry that I hurt your feelings.