traded him a savage 111 LRH in 6.5-284 norma with a shot out barrel (2600 rounds) for a browning abolt II with a 28" Krieger barrel. Its never been fired. He wanted to build a 6.5 RUM, what he says, and wanted the savage as the donor rifle. I believe my WSM started life as a 270 wsm but im going to have a smith here check it out for me.