LB thanks a bunch you verified what I have been speculating and as a beginner and first time build I really need to spend the money on what will work for intended purpose. A few things I have learned here and elsewhere. Brass is very important use the best brass and make sure the action and magazine can seat the intended bullet far enough forward to utilize case capacity. This is where the long action is preferable. I have read reports of guys getting close to 2900 fps with a 140gr VLD from a 6.5 x 55 by having it chambered to allow forward seating of the bullet and using a long action, Lapua brass and most efficient powder. I guess I'll have to settle on a 24" minimum barrel. I'll just have to knuckle under and start training again. It's not just the extra 4" of barrel I think about I am also getting into this ultralite backpacking so the philosophy is to go lite, go far and easier. (get away from the crowds) This place is great a wealth of knowledge here thanks guys.
edited-- trying think where the patagonia mtns are-I grew up in Phoenix and the best times of my life were deer season and dad and uncles we all trekked down into some areas of AZ I shall not reveal online. I plan on getting back there and hunt those remote ridges now the family is all gone at least one more time before I move on. There are some truly amazing areas of AZ so long as the crowds haven't found them.