6.5mm 150g ABLR.

[Son of a Gun!]

G'day all,
I just thought I would post that after a few years, I am elated, I have finally found some 150g ABLR pills to use in my custom 264WM 29.5" 8" twist.
I have been looking for so long, I didn't think it would happen.
The cost per 100 is substantial, $179AUD, but I just have to try them.
These should be the ticket for my Dad getting his biggest Red deer stag in New Zealand next year, he turns 80 next year.

Cheers.

Like to know how that bullet worked on a Red Stag! I shot a big Aoudad Ram a couple of winters ago with a 7mm Rem. Mag. loaded with the 168 gr. ABLR at about 200 yds. broadside and it didn't penetrate clear through! I prefer the regular Accubonds!

 

[Phil Rizzo]

I've been thinking about the ABLR in my 7PRC, to see if I can make them shoot.
Sounds like I better stick to 175gr, since regular AB's are my all time favorite on game.
But I'm on deer and pigs.

 

[MagnumManiac]

I have an update, the bullets arrived in the mail. Preliminary inspection shows they are only slightly longer than the 142g ABLR. BC is only a slight increase from .316 (G7) to .319 (G7), yet will work with my throat (.220") just fine. Will post some pics tomorrow.

Cheers.

 

[Allen Kitts]

Like to know how that bullet worked on a Red Stag! I shot a big Aoudad Ram a couple of winters ago with a 7mm Rem. Mag. loaded with the 168 gr. ABLR at about 200 yds. broadside and it didn't penetrate clear through! I prefer the regular Accubonds!

I shot a very nice stag in NZ with my 6.5 PRC at 487 yards with 140 grain Accuonds at 2900 FPS and it went 10 yards maybe.

 

[Phil Rizzo]

I shot a very nice stag in NZ with my 6.5 PRC at 487 yards with 140 grain Accuonds at 2900 FPS and it went 10 yards maybe.
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That's what I call a REAL hunting bullet.
Heavy bones or no bones.
Broadside or not broadside.
And it boasts accuracy few can approach.
Up close? No problem, either.
From 110-160grs I've never had anything but impressive results

 

[MagnumManiac]

That's what I call a REAL hunting bullet.
Heavy bones or no bones.
Broadside or not broadside.
And it boasts accuracy few can approach.
Up close? No problem, either.
From 110-160grs I've never had anything but impressive results

Maybe so at normal ranges, but we are expecting shots at 600-800 metres and a normal Accubond (140g) starting at 3300fps is OK for 500-600, but pushing it at 800…
I have done this with the 6.5 142g ABLR, 7mm 168g ABLR 7STW & 210g ABLR 300WM & RUM. We strive for 1 shot kills and we practise at these ranges with bullets designed and proven for the job. I have ample 6.5mm 140g Accubonds, and they are great on our smaller deer at ranges to 400+metres.

Cheers.

 

[Phil Rizzo]

I'm going to give the .284/175gr a try when I get broken in/fireformed.
Now if I can make them group…hmm

 

[archeratlrg]

You should be well above those velocities.

I have a 264 Win Mag Ackley Improved with a 28" proof barrel and can easily hit 3300fps with 156 EOL Bergers. I've hit 3400 but it was so close to the edge on pressure that one would extract easily and the next may have a stiff bolt and clicker.

I currently run it at an easy 3150 to save brass and barrel life.

Hey Mike,what's that improved 264 Win mag blown out to on the shoulder? Did you keep the original neck/shldr junction and just blow it out from there?

 

[Phil Rizzo]

Maybe so at normal ranges, but we are expecting shots at 600-800 metres and a normal Accubond (140g) starting at 3300fps is OK for 500-600, but pushing it at 800…
I have done this with the 6.5 142g ABLR, 7mm 168g ABLR 7STW & 210g ABLR 300WM & RUM. We strive for 1 shot kills and we practise at these ranges with bullets designed and proven for the job. I have ample 6.5mm 140g Accubonds, and they are great on our smaller deer at ranges to 400+metres.

Cheers.

Do you find the BC numbers to be inflated ?

 

[MagnumManiac]

Do you find the BC numbers to be inflated ?

Originally, the 210g ABLR was most definitely inflated by more than 10%, but I haven't found that with any others so far.
I am currently using the 6.5mm 129g,142g & 150g, 7mm 168g & 175g, 308 210g & 338 265g. I believe the BC was inflated, or incorrect, on all of these when first introduced. I have had incorrect BC numbers with many brands of bullets, especially with my wildcats because velocity changes BC, and my wildcats are substantially faster than what bullets are generally tested for.

Cheers.

 

[Mike D Texas]

Hey Mike,what's that improved 264 Win mag blown out to on the shoulder? Did you keep the original neck/shldr junction and just blow it out from there?

It's just a classic AI treatment to the case. 40° shoulder, removed taper, pushed forward slightly. It almost looks like a belted 26 Nosler.

 

[archeratlrg]

It's just a classic AI treatment to the case. 40° shoulder, removed taper, pushed forward slightly. It almost looks like a belted 26 Nosler.

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Thank you. On a standard 06 cartridge the shoulder is blown out from about .437 to .455. Do you know what the shoulder diameter of your improved case is?

 

[MagnumManiac]

OK, I finally got around to doing some measurements and taking some photos.
The round on the left is the 142g seated with the heal below the neck, and the round on the right is the 150g with the heal just below the neck, both will be .010" just off touching when assembled to shoot.
The 142g is 3.457" touching (COAL) and the 150g is 3.465" touching.
Not a great deal of difference and the throat also suits the Berger 156g perfectly within these parameters.
Now, many might question what advantage there is between the 142 & 150 in terms of performance. Even though a small amount, the higher BC should buck wind better and this was the goal from the start. A BC difference from (G7) .316 to .319 is no great amount, but it will make a difference.

Cheers.

 

[ImBillT]

Yeah, I think I am stering away from the Bergers.
The two 28 nos I load for my buddy's have had some questionable performances as well.

What happened?