I've played with them some to see if they will group. I've only tried two powders so far (reloaded 26 and Magnum).Both powders showed good signs. I'm shooting a Mesa long range in 6.5 PRC. My chamber is (ogive) 2.393 and I pushed them in to 2.293. I was shooting in 0 degree temps, no wind, 4700 alt, and 200 yards. Attached is the picture of the .293 through .383 group using magnum powder. I'm waiting on some Retumbo to see if I can get anything better. I noticed as I sat them closer to the lands the groups began to spread out. I haven't loaded anymore for comparison.