6.5 haters

[Muddyboots]

Just gets back to this.

What is your recoil threshold poll?

I can agree on that one. No suppressor experience but I think I’m more likely to flinch from the massive blast in my face from an aggressive brake than I am from getting slammed in the shoulder hard. I find that pressure wave distinctly hard to shoot well with on guns with those tank style...

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[h_1ag]

Exactly! Needmore is so good, Hornady replaced it with the 6.5 PRC 7 months later.
Marketing, for horning in on market shares is all it is.
.260 Remington is superior in every way, as is 6.5x55 Swede.

Did Hornady "replace it" with PRC or simply release a new and different cartridge that's effectively a short mag version? Last I checked, there's a LOT more Creedmoor on the shelves and the bigger one has around 30% more capacity- different animal.

You familiar with development of either one? It's not like they were hatched in a Hornady lab in NE.

 

[yogibearmech]

I have brakes and suppressors the brake doesn't bother me at all. I know I have shot a deer with a couple of people around me and they beg me not to shoot again

 

[Muddyboots]

You know, us old geezers that shoot .270's feel left out from all the memes. Especially if with fast twist, freebore for heavies. We're bald so no manbun, maybe turn down the reflection? Just feel odd man out at the prom.

 

[Calvin45]

I see your 30-378 and see you my 6.5-378...nana, booboo

You don't actually have a 6.5-378 do you!?!? If so, tell me more!!!!

 

[Calvin45]

You know, us old geezers that shoot .270's feel left out from all the memes. Especially if with fast twist, freebore for heavies. We're bald so no manbun, maybe turn down the reflection? Just feel odd man out at the prom.

I'm a young (ish) punk that also shoots a .270 but if you want to be made fun of (with your chrome dome and size 16 boots) I'm sure someone more photoshop savvy than myself could create an image of a bald Sasquatch and start the hostility right proper

 

[h_1ag]

Did Hornady "replace it" with PRC or simply release a new and different cartridge that's effectively a short mag version? Last I checked, there's a LOT more Creedmoor on the shelves and the bigger one has around 30% more capacity- different animal.

You familiar with development of either one? It's not like they were hatched in a Hornady lab in NE.

Also- 6.5Swede is not a short action cartridge. Should we compare 6.5-300wby too if we're analyzing different 6.5s without regard for case size? Let me know when you find the best way to seat a 156 Berger into a .260 and still fit it into a standard mag.
Dennis DeMille was a .260 shooter that designed the cartridge for a very specific purpose, which was not so that Hornady could market it and get rich off of twerps at the range annoying you because their $800 Ruger American / Vortex combo can do what you spent years and thousands of dollars to build a custom .260 or Swede to achieve.

 

[Calvin45]

Also- 6.5Swede is not a short action cartridge. Should we compare 6.5-300wby too if we're analyzing different 6.5s without regard for case size? Let me know when you find the best way to seat a 156 Berger into a .260 and still fit it into a standard mag.
Dennis DeMille was a .260 shooter that designed the cartridge for a very specific purpose, which was not so that Hornady could market it and get rich off of twerps at the range annoying you because their $800 Ruger American / Vortex combo can do what you spent years and thousands of dollars to build a custom .260 or Swede to achieve.

Absolutely dead on the money here.

Your comments about ruger and vortex make me feel all warm and fuzzy about my hideous early 2000's savage 111 package gun in .270 win. Not even Vortex! We're talking a cheap Simmons here

I have three shooting friends who also run .270s who struggled not to resent me for a while after my cheap rifle consistently outshot their tikka t3, browning a-bolt, and Remington 700 that had all cost a lot more than my rig and certainly looked and felt nicer.

 

[tooth doc]

I am not sure I would say 6.5 haters as much as I would Creedmoor haters. The 6.5 has always been a wonderful bullet. Read so many articles about the 6.5 before the Creedmoor ever arrived on the seen. I would say the reason for the hate is the Creedmoor showed up and all of a sudden this is the cartridge to end all cartridges. People claimed ridiculous capabilities when the Creedmoor doesn't produce anything better than the Swede the 260 Rem, 264 win mag or the 6.5/06 A square that was already available to the public. This isn.t to mention the wildcats that were available. Shooters just got tired of new shooters picking up the cartridge running to the range and field and claiming that it was this super cartridge that equals what is out there already.

amen, amen, and again AMEN!

 

[VaWhiteTailHunter76]

That being said I do love dropping these memes on crudmoor

The old saying is "more than a mouthful is a waste".

 

[orifdoc]

The arrival of the 6.5 Creedmore probably was magic to the many individuals who were scared of their magnums and shot them poorly. Little itty-bitty bullets in the vitals are way more effective than big fast bullets that go random places.

For once, they were marketed something they tried, and actually saw good results.

All of the hype is pretty funny to watch. There's nothing magical about any of this.

 

[cajun]

Exactly! Needmore is so good, Hornady replaced it with the 6.5 PRC 7 months later.
Marketing, for horning in on market shares is all it is.
.260 Remington is superior in every way, as is 6.5x55 Swede.

The 260 remington in saami form is not superior to the creed. The twist is too slow and the neck is too short. By the time you seat a vld or eldx deep enough the powder capacity advantage is nil. If anything it's a wash except that creedmore ammo is everywhere.

 

[h_1ag]

Absolutely dead on the money here.

Your comments about ruger and vortex make me feel all warm and fuzzy about my hideous early 2000's savage 111 package gun in .270 win. Not even Vortex! We're talking a cheap Simmons here

I have three shooting friends who also run .270s who struggled not to resent me for a while after my cheap rifle consistently outshot their tikka t3, browning a-bolt, and Remington 700 that had all cost a lot more than my rig and certainly looked and felt nicer.

Most of my deer fall from a Rem 783 chambered in .270 Win with an entry level 3-9x Leupold. Thick TX hill country brush is not kind on my nicer rigs. There's a time and place for cheap boom sticks and another for LRH and comps.

 

[Snowyone]

Well I was one of the people who didn't like even hearing about the 6.5 CM and yet here I am with one on the rack. Built an AR 10 and the 6.5 seemed to be the way to go wanting a 24" barrel and Aero had one. Took a couple of trips to the range figuring out why it wouldn't cycle but found the magazines were rubbing to hard on the bolt carrier. A little hammer work and they went as fast as my finger could work. Wasn't trying to hit anything in particular but with the 20 rounds I bought going fast I aimed at a clay bird someone had put on the bank 220 yards away. This was without even sighting it in and low and behold I hit the bird. So the last three rounds I had I further scattered the orange pieces left. Haven't been that excited about accuracy sense I hit the metal gong three times in a roll at 200yds with my Freedom Arms Casull