6.5 Grendel hunting bullet

[snox801]

All good man.
Sometimes it's very hard to pick up on comments in writing that are easy to when spoken. Happens all the time.

 

[Old Rooster]

Well if we all thought like you then now me would ever try a new bullet. We would all shoot round balls because "dead is dead".
A car and a bike both get you were you are going but I'm sure you don't use a bike for road trips.
Point is people that have used both a lot like myself have experienced much better performance on game with the hammers. And not just a few I usually kill over 100 a year.
The point is not to try and get someone hooked on them because I make zero profit if they sell.
The point is trying to let people know that something better exists. Then let the user decide if the extra money is worth it.

And In Stock!

 

[MachV]

All fun aside, I've trued Barns and GS bullet. They penetrate great but accuracy has been so so with a lot more load development. The Hammers may be better but they ain't cheaper and the ELDs work great on critters up to antelope. Now back to the original question what bullet for deer? ELDs would work with double lung shots but Hammers would get a try for woods white tails. Antelope are looking for a reason to die and white tails kill themselves to stay alive!

 

[WildRose]

Well if we all thought like you then now me would ever try a new bullet. We would all shoot round balls because "dead is dead".
A car and a bike both get you were you are going but I'm sure you don't use a bike for road trips.
Point is people that have used both a lot like myself have experienced much better performance on game with the hammers. And not just a few I usually kill over 100 a year.
The point is not to try and get someone hooked on them because I make zero profit if they sell.
The point is trying to let people know that something better exists. Then let the user decide if the extra money is worth it.

"If you don't occasionally try something new you'll never find anything better.-WR.

 

[WildRose]

You're right, my apologies. I wasn't trying to start a fight or an argument, I was trying to be funny, but I failed.

Written humor often fails. About 70-75% of Human communication is listening to voice inflections, tone, and observing facial expressions.

Jerry Lewis occasionally did some silent routines and could still split you down both sides in doing so.

 

[WoodPecker Hunter]

And that's why I'm going to the range to see how my 100 gr Partitions shoot for FPS and Group .

 

[snox801]

And that's why I'm going to the range to see how my 100 gr Partitions shoot for FPS and Group .

I do love me partitions. They don't do anything spectacular but they always work.

 

[Old Rooster]

Even being a flat base bullet to boot!
Some feel you HAVE to have a boat tail to kill anything.
If it was not for the bullet shortage I would still be loading 180 gr Partitions in all 30 cal rifles.

 

[WildRose]

Even being a flat base bullet to boot!
Some feel you HAVE to have a boat tail to kill anything.
If it was not for the bullet shortage I would still be loading 180 gr Partitions in all 30 cal rifles.

The boat tail is mostly There to make loading them easier to slightly lower pressures, and lastly to help with stability and down range retained velocity. There's a lot of question as to the real effect for anything but making them easier to load.

I've known a whole lot of success bench shooters that actually make a pretty argument that the FB's are more accurate and easier to get a load to tune well easily.

No real good hard data on any of these but successful bench guys are extremely anal about keeping data on everything.

 

[Hard rock]

Even being a flat base bullet to boot!
Some feel you HAVE to have a boat tail to kill anything.
If it was not for the bullet shortage I would still be loading 180 gr Partitions in all 30 cal rifles.

Let me tell you what turned me off of the 100 gr Nosler Partition . My daughter in law shot a big mule deer buck on my place in West Texas with my handload in my 257 Robert's . The bullet entry never was found and no exit .The deer was mush inside and must have fragmented or turned inside the deer ,making it like looking for a needle in the hay stack . I switched too Barnes ,Then too Hammers. I'm still scratching my head on that one . I think the 90 gr Hammer at 3800 fps might leave at least one hole or two.

 

[Old Rooster]

I've said before and I'll say it again,any bullet can fail at some point in time.What you experienced my friend was a fail!
I have taken the large part of my elk kills with the 180 gr Partition and they always fell,except 1 time She died but not on the spot as they used to die.Yep any quality bullet can and will fail at some point in time.My worst fails were with Barnes

 

[WildRose]

Let me tell you what turned me off of the 100 gr Nosler Partition . My daughter in law shot a big mule deer buck on my place in West Texas with my handload in my 257 Robert's . The bullet entry never was found and no exit .The deer was mush inside and must have fragmented or turned inside the deer ,making it like looking for a needle in the hay stack . I switched too Barnes ,Then too Hammers. I'm still scratching my head on that one . I think the 90 gr Hammer at 3800 fps might leave at least one hole or two.

Well there had to at least be a entry hole if the innards were turned to mush.

If you found no heavy bone broken then in all likelihood there was an exit hole as well.

The one knock on the partition is that instead of mushrooming well, it just sheds the jacket and led and the second section then just produces a caliber size or even smaller exit due to stretch and snap back.

If the critter doesn't die pretty much instantly the physiological reaction to a puncture type trauma is to tighten up around the would to reduce blood loss.

They just aren't made to excel shooting only through relatively soft tissue, they are made for deep penetration on thick, hard bodied animals and for punching big bones and still getting penetration.

Shoot enough animals though with enough different bullets you're going to see all kinds of things you've never seen before over decades of shooting, the hard part is figuring out what actually happened if you're surprised with the results and thence figuring how to correct in the future.

 

[Reelamin]

What's Your GUYs Opinions of the 100 gr Nosler Partition bullet out of the Grendel at 2700 fps or so ? I think its should open up Well - Expand and still penetrate good !
Whats NOT to like ?

Perfect choice. Always expands and penetrates. One of the most consistent performing bullets made. Never go wrong with the gold standard.

 

[Hard rock]

Well there had to at least be a entry hole if the innards were turned to mush.

If you found no heavy bone broken then in all likelihood there was an exit hole as well.

The one knock on the partition is that instead of mushrooming well, it just sheds the jacket and led and the second section then just produces a caliber size or even smaller exit due to stretch and snap back.

If the critter doesn't die pretty much instantly the physiological reaction to a puncture type trauma is to tighten up around the would to reduce blood loss.

They just aren't made to excel shooting only through relatively soft tissue, they are made for deep penetration on thick, hard bodied animals and for punching big bones and still getting penetration.

Shoot enough animals though with enough different bullets you're going to see all kinds of things you've never seen before over decades of shooting, the hard part is figuring out what actually happened if you're surprised with the results and thence figuring how to correct in the future.

There 100 gr partition had too enter but it definitely didn't exit , the only conclusion I could ever come up with the bullet must have vacuum sealed the entrance ..There was three of us looking and rubbing all over the deer too find the entrance or blood . I ve been shooting game a long time and have never experienced any thing like that. My correction for the future is shooting Hammer Bullets . If I didn't shoot Hammers or Barnes , my cup and core choices would be Nosler accubonds or Partitions. I have plenty of those for back up.