uncle_motorhead
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Barrel life should be better than my Lazzeroni Firebird 7mm. Case capacity 117.
Ok gunsmiths!
How many rounds can a 280AI be shot before the barrel starts it's demise?
Assume on a trued R700 action:
1 the barrel is not smokin hot, say 5 rounds and cool, max
2 the handload is capable of 500-600 yards accuracy
3 maintaining a max book load or less
4 shooting for target work (for me) and grandkid loads for deer. 130-168 grain anything
5 barrel is a Proof SS pencil barrel, 26", 8.4 twist, for packing into high country, plus a brake
6 rifle in build stage, but seeing loads with H4831, Re22, Re23, Re26 H1000 some shooting magnum primers, some on BR primers. Your choice here...
7 want repeatable results with reasonable loads on elk (rarely) and deer or smaller.
I know, "variables". But think along one load you like, what is the life expectancy if this barrel is taken care of, really well...
Rifle is still in build at the gunsmith. Normally (after a hard lesson with pressure), I will not exceed max book numbers. If I do, I will find another powder/primer combo. Primarily using this for trigger time for me and as a pack gun. Grandkids will use it with lighter bullet/ powder charges where I hit a good accuracy node. I'm anal about cleaning and keeping a barrel "cool". The barrel is a sporter Proof. This rifle is set up the same as my 7RM, same scope, trigger, length and just about 1 1/2 pounds lighter. Estimated...I have a barrel life program that is reasonably accurate
What is your powder, load, pressure if known and are you coating your bullets?
Funniest crap I've seen all day!
Probably needed more twist for the high g7bc of a ramrod.My brother in law left his ramrod in a muzzleloader and hit the target (sideways). We still give him grief.
Not only the ramrod hit the target, the bullet hit 2" low and left. We dug chunks of brass from the ramrod out of the target frame...he got a nice scope cut on his nose. Priceless.....I framed his target, and displayed in his office.Probably needed more twist for the high g7bc of a ramrod.
Glad getting scoped was the only injury.Not only the ramrod hit the target, the bullet hit 2" low and left. We dug chunks of brass from the ramrod out of the target frame...he got a nice scope cut on his nose. Priceless.....I framed his target, and displayed in his office.
Thanks, this is useful info. I keep good round counts on my rifles now. Plan on getting the lyman borescope for the many obvious reasons. Keeping track of forward movement of lands. This rifle will get more rounds down the tube than my 7RM for trigger time, hunting, fun. Plus Jr. Hunts for the grandkids. Rebarreling doesnt bother me. But I have a good idea now from all the comments above when and where the groups may start opening up. Can't wait till I get it back from the smith.My
7 mm RM lasted 1,600 rounds; Barrel: Remington 40X heavy (pig) contour
6.5 Remington Magnum lasted 2,200 rounds; Barrel: Shaw Remington Varmint Contour
6.5-06 lasted 1,792 Barrel: Kreigher light Palma Contour
.308 Win lasted 6,002 Barrel: Kreigher heavy (pig) Contour
Lots of variables to consider. I shot the crap out of these barrels, contuning to shoot most past their accuracy life and pulled them when the:
7mm RM started blowing up SMK at 200 yards;
6.5 Remington Magnum not stay on an 8.5X11 target at 200 yards;
6.5-06 started blowing up SMK at 600 yards (shot another 100 Nosler partitions at 100 yards for grins & giggles because i had them)
.308 Win when it would not hold the 8 ring at 600 yards (F-Class).
Some of these went from 2 inches to nothing within the last 50 rounds. Others were more gradual.
However, I have a buddy that will pull a barrel if it goes from .2 to .5 inch groups. So there is what do you consider 'shot-out'.
Good luck
Jerry