28 Nosler vs 300 rum on mule deer and elk

[gohring3006]

I own a 28, next big Rifle will most likely be a 300 RUM.

If the 300 RUM was introduced today it would be the hottest thing out. Much like the 30-06 , 300 Win , 300 WSM etc before it time is its enemy.

Agree, I think the RUM was brought out at the wrong time. The big 230-250 grain bullets is where it shines.
A 1-8 twist 30" shooting the new heavy SMK is what the RUM was made for.

 

[newtonian]

This is fun to talk about, but really hair splitting when it comes to hunting elk. After harvesting many elk, some with a bow, I have to say that the exigencies of early light, evening dark, terrain, weather, wind, distance to vehicle, and human endurance, actually put a limit on practical range for elk shooting. Even if you can punch a target or ring a gong at 1200 yards, you might not want to shoot an elk at half that distance.

 

[Rifleman97]

IMO if recoil is not a problem go with the RUM. They are both great calibers and neither would let you down but the difference, at least right now seems to be the price of the brass. The price on 28 Nosler Brass is super expensive if you plan to shoot the gun on a regular bases. I shot a 300 RUM for years and the recoil never bothered me. I did see mention on here about adding a break which is a great idea for the bench but they are incredibly hard on your ears in the field and on your hunting buddies.

It won't be braked, however it will be suppressed. A little bit of recoil reduction but a lot of noise reduction.

 

[esorensen]

Agree, I think the RUM was brought out at the wrong time. The big 230-250 grain bullets is where it shines.
A 1-8 twist 30" shooting the new heavy SMK is what the RUM was made for.

Ergo the reason I just screwed a 30" 8.7 twist ROCK throated perfectly to shoot the 225 eld from the detachable Wyatt's magazine...just breaking in the barrel, and already had the 212's over 3250...

That said, the switch barrel system that this is, has a twin 8.7 twist 7WSM that made 180 JLKs go "poof" at about 50 yards. Just got a box of 195's.

Which to pick over the other? Too many factors to consider, but splitting hairs is what we do. Glad I don't have to choose, and can change calibers and rezero in just a few minutes, and the safe looks the same and wallet agrees.

 

[KyCarl]

Why not a .300 Jarrett?
They claim 3000+FPS.with a 200 grain Nosler bullet.
That should work?

 

[Rifleman97]

Why not a .300 Jarrett?
They claim 3000+FPS.with a 200 grain Nosler bullet.
That should work?

300 rum with saami throat will throw the 200 grain accubonds at around 3200, with a longer throat it can throw 230 grain bullets faster than the Jarrett can throw 200 grain bullets. I have a Win mag, I want something with more power down range than that, going with Jarret isn't a whole lot of gain.
It's a neat cartridge though

 

[esorensen]

Honestly, if I didn't already have a ton of old RUM brass, I'd have gone with the 300 Norma. There's a reason Lapua picks certain cartridges to make brass for.

 

[muleystalker]

I feel the same way with a .30. The 300 norma mag is about the most well balanced and efficient 30 cal magnum before you start reaching that point of deminising returns for powder capacity. Given that the same goes for the 28 nosler, the too could be considered the magnum version of the Dashers and BRX in the BR/f-class world. Short, fat, big shoulders. Anything over the powder capacity in those two cartridges you the gain in velocity per increase in powder charge realy starts to deminish fast. I love my 28 Nosler. It's a hammer on elk, and it is one of the most accurate and forging cartridges to load for. It's like loading 107smk in a 6mm dasher , if you can't get them to shoot in the .30's fairly easy there is something wrong. 195's and 86-87gr of rl-33 and and if the shooter and gun does it part you should be shooting little bug holes. Honestly some of the best groups I have ever shot have been out of one of my 28's, and that's including all my f-class guns.

 

[Timeee123]

This is based purely off experience
I chose a 28 nosler, My buddy shoots a 300 rum also my dad.
My buddy dropped a cow elk at 1175 yards this year with his 300 rum, dead before it hit the ground.
I have killed antelope and deer out to 620 yards, dead before they hit the ground
Pullin up applied ballistics and comparing side by side velocity and knockdown was similar with the loads we use (so many variables tho), I would give a slight advantage to the 28 nos. mainly because its what I shoot and am comfortable with. If I shot the rum I would probably support that but I am a .284 snob and think its king.

 

[Good]

Worst case even if I decide on a 300 or 338 I can put it on another rifle and chamber it in a 7 SAUM or something 7mm short action since I don't have any short action rifles right now.

If I were doing a short action, I'd try to get one of these guys to draw you up an Ackley 7mm or 6.5 reamer based on the Lazzeroni short action cartridges. That would be cool.

Long action, 300 Lapua (maybe even ackley!) with a 300 Norma second.