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1.5 year wait, and got wrong barrel......

The reality is we are just talking head on the internet, this is between you and your smith, call him calmly and discuss the build. He may have a solid reason it's a little shorter, granted that should have been communicated to when it was noticed. You have not lost any performance by one inch, I've had them run 3000 fps with a 215 with a 26 and 28 inch barrels, that one inch is not noticeable over all, if you were missing 4 inches that would be different but you have not lost enough to tell if it's that one inch or a slow or fast barrel.
 
Did you remove the brake to measure the barrel length? The brake has to screw on to a portion of threaded barrel and it varies with type of brake and maker.
 
In order to get a real 28" he/you would have had to order a 29" or longer blank.

It appears he ordered a 28" blank which will finish at ~27 and shorter.

You can:
Make him do it over. Honey is better than salt when trying to talk him into it.
or
Make an agreement with the smith that if it doesn't shoot it will get redone with a real 28" barrel
or
Shoot it and if it shoots good. Call it good and enjoy the rifle.

IIIWM and I was in this boat with my 338 Edge, trying to get 30" and got 29.25". Shoot it. My Edge is a ball to shoot.

Shoot it and if it shoots good. Call it good and enjoy the rifle.

That is exactly what I thought when I read the thread.

Shoot it. You just might love it. If not then you can complain.

I don't think an inch is going to make that great a difference either. Fact is you might grow to like it. 26" is as long as I would want unless its a dedicated bench gun.
 
WEATHERBY460,

First and foremost, this is a discussion that should have taken place with the gunsmith NOT in public on an open forum. You could have asked a question such as 'How is a completed barrel measured for length?' In this situation you have opinions impugning the gunsmith's reputation without having given him the opportunity to give you his explanation.

Second, the ATF measures rifle barrels with a rod inserted down the barrel to the bolt face because that's the most expedient method, barring having to take every rifle apart to measure the finished barrel. A finished rifle barrel is measured from the end of the threads at the breech to the muzzle including the threads at the muzzle. It is not measured from the bolt face or from the recoil lug or from the front of the receiver.

Your 'missing inch' is probably the length of the thread tenon inside the receiver.

Regards.
 
The reality is we are just talking head on the internet, this is between you and your smith, call him calmly and discuss the build. He may have a solid reason it's a little shorter, granted that should have been communicated to when it was noticed. You have not lost any performance by one inch, I've had them run 3000 fps with a 215 with a 26 and 28 inch barrels, that one inch is not noticeable over all, if you were missing 4 inches that would be different but you have not lost enough to tell if it's that one inch or a slow or fast barrel.

It don't get no simpler than that!
 
I can understand the OP's frustration. My last build didn't go as I expected. I won't go into details here,but the bottom line is this. Get a work order in hand right off the bat. Complete with the cost of each aspect of the build. Get all the 'Ts" crossed and the "Is" dotted. My smith took some liberties that I don't approve of. Unfortunately I left some grey area and by gum he exploited it. Also,if you are paying for a smith of your choosing to do your work,make sure he isn't going to utilize it as a training tool for a journeyman smith. I'm just pretty sure my rig was bedded (poorly) by an apprentice. Live and learn I guess. Maybe the inch of barrel is a moot point in real world velocities. Bottom line is he wanted a 28" barrel and didn't get it. For the cost of the blank,crowning,threading,chambering,fluting and maybe coating,it should be the right length.
 
I can understand the OP's frustration. My last build didn't go as I expected. I won't go into details here,but the bottom line is this. Get a work order in hand right off the bat. Complete with the cost of each aspect of the build. Get all the 'Ts" crossed and the "Is" dotted. My smith took some liberties that I don't approve of. Unfortunately I left some grey area and by gum he exploited it. Also,if you are paying for a smith of your choosing to do your work,make sure he isn't going to utilize it as a training tool for a journeyman smith. I'm just pretty sure my rig was bedded (poorly) by an apprentice. Live and learn I guess. Maybe the inch of barrel is a moot point in real world velocities. Bottom line is he wanted a 28" barrel and didn't get it. For the cost of the blank,crowning,threading,chambering,fluting and maybe coating,it should be the right length.

I agree. It's the gunsmith's responsibility, much more so than the client's responsibility - in my opinion - to ensure the client gets what he wanted. And the smith should be cognizant of the likelihood that some client's may not know exactly what they want and strive to identify the final product specifications. The smith is being hired (in the role of the "professional") to provide a professional service. He ought to put out the effort to minimize the client's disappointments, as part of that professional service. If he can't, or doesn't, then adopt the "Fool me once shame on you - fool me twice shame on me" response and find another smith that puts out the effort to help ensure it's pleasing the first time around - or at the minimum - a smith that will correct the error/mistake/misunderstanding after-the-fact.

Barrel length is pretty basic. A lot of client's may not know all other aspects of exactly what they want, or might be best, for their custom rifle. But if they specify a barrel length, then they should at least receive that...

Having said this, I do agree with talking with your gunsmith to find out what happened, before crying out loud. Unless you've never before made a mistake in your life...

My last rifle build took 2 yrs and 3 months - AFTER all of the parts were provided to my gunsmith. I'm serious. Every single part was in hand and I didn't receive a completed rifle for 2 years and 3 months. The journey became quite a fiasco. The smith refused to return a call. He was 2000 miles from my residence in Alaska. I felt fortunate to avoid a complete train wreck. For quite a period of time I would have been glad to have simply obtained all of my build parts back in their original form. I eventually ended up with a quality, complete, and accurate rifle. But only after a second gunsmith business in the locality of the first, offered to salvage, and complete my build. So it may seem like little consolation, but consider the possibility that it could have always turned out worse - much worse - if that helps you move on...

By the way, BAT Machine was the company that salvaged my rifle build, to give credit where credit is due. I experienced quality business practices and communications on BAT's part, in every respect.
 
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Seems to me that if you told the gunsmith you wanted a 28" barrel, not including the brake it is quite obvious to me that you intended for that to be the finished length.
Why would he "order" a 28" blank, then finish it to be 27" because you wanted a 28" barrel?? He should have made it clear up front and ask more wuestions if HE didn't understand. If that is what you wanted, and that is what you paid for, you should be able to get what you want.
Don't settle for less than what you wanted, or expected. You will always be
sorry if you settle "for less" than what you wanted. They are called "custom" rifles for a reason- You customize it the way you want it. If you wanted a rifle that was made the way the gunsmith decided what to build it, then you could go to Cabelas.
Call him and express your concerns, and that you are dissatisfied. He should do whatever you request to make it right.
 
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