284win Trail Boss 100g-115gr YOUTH LOADS

98s1lightning · Dec 10, 2024

Anybody run a 284win case w Trail Boss Powder over a 100gr-115gr Varmint bullet for plinking/Youth loads?

Curious if any real world experience

Reference used: A 243win case is published 100gr @ 1000fps to 1600fps (case holds approx 10gr less total)

Roughrice · Dec 10, 2024

Have you looked at load data for 110 or 120 grain bullets?
I'd think a starting point low charge load with a 110 HP or 120 soft point would be effective on game and pretty soft on recoil.

98s1lightning · Dec 10, 2024

Supersonic loads, even 22LR, anything that cracks, is loud for the kid

Bringing him up slow on noise and recoil, so he doesn't develop flinch or muzzle blast fears/bad habits

Bucklowery · Dec 10, 2024

Can you even find trail boss anywhere. I have not see it for couple years

Thanks

Buck

98s1lightning · Dec 10, 2024

Beats me, I haven't looked lately, hahahah

44ron85 · Dec 10, 2024

98s1lightning said:
Beats me, I haven't looked lately, hahahah

If you don't have any trailboss on the shelf I'd look at a different load. It's very hard to find and goes for crazy prices on the second hand market.

fseaman · Dec 10, 2024

I use Trail Boss for lots of things but not specifically the 284+100-115 bullet.

QL says it will make ~2000 with a 100. I don't have a 115 in my QL.

It would still be loud. It will still be supersonic.

I have done loads with a 30-06, 45-70, cowboy games 45LC and others. I love it for a black powder substitute or reduced loads for fun.

One of my most fun is a Winchester 1885 Highwall 45-70. "Quigley"

gun. Yeah, that is actually a Shiloh Sharps in 45-110 but that's not required to have fun with it.

If I get the TB found/unpacked, I'll try it but you'll probably have if figured out by then.

fseaman · Dec 10, 2024

https://www.handloadermagazine.com/reduced-rifle-loads#:~:text=Charges%20of%20H%2D4895%20and,257%20Roberts%2C%20(4)%20.

98s1lightning · Dec 10, 2024

H4895 is on my list too

Thank you guys

P7M13 · Dec 10, 2024

I use Unique and Clays International for reduced loads in 308 and 30-30.

sourdough44 · Dec 11, 2024

I admit your idea is viable, but it seems there are easier alternatives. Does the youth have to use the 284 Win? I mean, what about a 22 or 223 for familiarity shooting?

Back to the 284, one could drop to lower charges with Hodgdon's '60% rule' using H-4895. I have some modest 243 loads with light 55 grain bullets, close to zero recoil.

I've done some rifle rounds with slower handgun powders, mostly 2400 & 4227. These are powder puff loads, often to check out a new gun then start the sighting in process. There can be data in older manuals, possibly online, rather reputable. In large cases I often use a slight 'filler', Dacron stuffing. I've never had a problem, though once deviating from mainstream reloading, proceed with caution.

98s1lightning · Dec 11, 2024

We shoot the 22 short,.22LR, and 32-20 subs now

Moving on up soon

284win Trail Boss 100g-115gr YOUTH LOADS

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