memtb
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It even surprised me!
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memtbThe maximum range of 600 yards vs the animal's vital area are the defining factors for rifle precision. IMO, we would need better than 1 to 1.5 MOA (6" to 9" maximum group) to stay where we want to be at 600.
Regarding cartridges, a .308 will easily reach 600, but the exact range needs to be known, due to how quickly the .308 drops when it gets that far out. If one if using a rangefinder and can get a good measurement, fine. If not, a flatter shooting cartridge like one of the 6.5s would provide a higher hit percentage.,
Regarding cartridges, a .308 will easily reach 600, but the exact range needs to be known, due to how quickly the .308 drops when it gets that far out. If one if using a rangefinder and can get a good measurement, fine. If not, a flatter shooting cartridge like one of the 6.5s would provide a higher hit percentage.,
Hand Skills
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If I am hunting to 600yd, I'm much more concerned with how the system performs at 600yd from prone and sitting.
In that context 100yd from the bench is meaningless.
Just my opinion
In that context 100yd from the bench is meaningless.
Just my opinion
memtb
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10 in at one sitting from a warm/hot barrel? memtb
memtb
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Assuming that a range finder is used…..range known!
I wasn't really questioning the cartridge…..merely what should be the minimum accuracy qualifications for the rifle/shooter! memtb
memtb
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If I am hunting to 600yd, I'm much more concerned with how the system performs at 600yd from prone and sitting.
In that context 100yd from the bench is meaningless.
Just my opinion
I agree… but the equipments capabilities most be known. Or, in my mind it should be!
It would be rather pointless shooting from field positions at extended ranges…..if the rifle/cartridge/ load is only capable of 2" groups from the bench! memtb
Take it as slow as you want but same point of aim and same distance
none of my rifles have a problem being shot warm but you don't need to hurry or anything
You make me laugh. Are you thinking of changing your favorite rifle or just want to see opinions?
In a 9 lb rifle for me would hands down be a Winchester model 70 with claw extractor chambered in a either a 300 mag or 7 mm mag of some sort. Depends on game animals and where your hunting. If it were for dangerous game 375 h&h mag or something similar.
Me I don't like 9lb rifles I'm not saying I can't carry that weight of rifle I just don't see the point if a good ole 30-06 or 270 can kill out to my range of 500 yards why bother with a extra 3-4 lbs when I can carry other items like extra food or clothes, batteries. Just my thoughts.
In a 9 lb rifle for me would hands down be a Winchester model 70 with claw extractor chambered in a either a 300 mag or 7 mm mag of some sort. Depends on game animals and where your hunting. If it were for dangerous game 375 h&h mag or something similar.
Me I don't like 9lb rifles I'm not saying I can't carry that weight of rifle I just don't see the point if a good ole 30-06 or 270 can kill out to my range of 500 yards why bother with a extra 3-4 lbs when I can carry other items like extra food or clothes, batteries. Just my thoughts.
memtb
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In that regard….my rifle does good with a warm to hot barrel! memtb
CaneBrake
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For 600 yards I want a rifle to consistently hold 1 MOA or less. Even on a bad day. I do want to test that rifle out to that range to ensure it still holds that 1 MOA accuracy. 1 MOA puts you at around a 6 1/4" group at 600 yards. That falls within the kill zone needed for deer and large game and still leaves me a little wiggle room on my wind call and other factors. I also want that rifle to have either no cold bore POI shift or a consistent cold bore POI shift so that I can account for it. I took a 650yd shot with my .308 some time ago. That rifle shoots repeatedly shoots 1/2 MOA or less @ 100yds and has practically no cold bore POI shift. Had I not had a rifle with those capabilities, I wouldn't have taken the shot. I may be more picky than others but I absolutely despise wounding an animal and I want to remove any chance of doing so if possible. As for weight, I can't really comment. My main two hunting rifles weigh 12+ lbs.
Your 3006 is 5-6lbs wet?
memtb
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Just wanting opinions pertaining to maximum group size expectations!
I gave 9 pounds, as that seemed to be a reasonable carry weight for most folks…..while also keeping it within a reasonable budget for the majority of hunters/shooters.
I've been saying, that under optimal conditions, I limit my distance to 600 yards. I wanted to know if my personal expectations were inflated or realistic! I may have to reevaluate!
A survey of sorts, to see if I fall within the opinions of the much more experienced long (ish) range hunters! memtb
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This is what Happens when people give
Smart... answers.
Then they start a thread.
If I think I will have a shot past 300yds, I want to be confident that my rifle will consistently shoot 1/2 moa to 600yds.
Out to 300yds 1moa will get it done.
Rifle = Only a 6/5 Creedmore.
Smart... answers.
Then they start a thread.
If I think I will have a shot past 300yds, I want to be confident that my rifle will consistently shoot 1/2 moa to 600yds.
Out to 300yds 1moa will get it done.
Rifle = Only a 6/5 Creedmore.
UhmThis is what Happens when people give
Smart... answers.
Then they start a thread.
If I think I will have a shot past 300yds, I want to be confident that my rifle will consistently shoot 1/2 moa to 600yds.
Out to 300yds 1moa will get it done.
Rifle = Only a 6/5 Creedmore.
what size of game are you talking about would be my 1st question. A elks vital zone is much larger than say a pronghorn. If you can't get inside of 400 yards of a game animal then your just trying to prove your marksmanship not hunting skills. Sorry I know I'm on the wrong forum for common sense talk where everyone can hit a deers heart at 1600 yards and never worry about tracking skills.
