VTbluegrass
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No matter your stance on NFA constitutionality, machine guns are not the hill I want my argument to die on.
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May I ask what is your argument?
And what would you risk your life for?
I wouldn't want to die over a machine gun either.
But non compliance with unconstitutional laws the older I get is something I just might.
They say you can't give up a god given right I would have to disagree.
Look at the 1st amendment and ask yourself does it still exist? Freedom of speech is disappearing because of hurt feelings or mentally ill people that can't tell what gender they are.
Freedom of religion? Not so much when the government can shut down churches and arrest pastors over a flu.
How about the right to assemble and confront government? Well I just point too the January 6ers still locked up for trespassing.
How about the movement to rewrite the Constitution because it was written by Old White slave owners.
How about that hill is that worth dieing for? A lot of other people thought so.
VTbluegrass
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Alright I will just say it. We ain't getting machine guns removed; no way, no how. So why go down the rabbit hole? Absolutely positively not going to get buy from enough of congress to change that part of the law and good luck with a court's challenge.
My four year old lost her ice cream this week because she screamed that it didn't have sprinkles. Let's make sure we don't miss out on ice cream by complaining it doesn't have sprinkles.
HRM Johnny
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I WANT SPRINKLES!
HRM Johnny
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What a great idea!!! Thank you marksman.
WYO300RUM
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A lot of good short stories if you click on past ones. You'll get hooked
Lenny Foffa
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If my Vette makes to much noise , that's very bad !! If your boat is too loud that's very bad , but if your rifle isn't Loud Enough, that's very very bad !!
Mike Matteson
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Yep! It took 14 months to get or clear the background check. I have said it before you can go in and purchase a firearm over the counter and go out the door with it. Buy a box of ammo and you are ready to go. The suppressor you have to do some especial work to mount it on the barrel of a rifle, and hand gun it's even more work to get it done. Unless you have a firearm set up the suppressor to. Otherwise it will work as a spacer in a fist if your hand is that big, or long enough to use it as a club. You can throw it, but that doesn't work that good. Other than that it take a lot of work to get it mounted. Yes the law needs to be changed. I started to get another suppressor and stop it because it would be another 14 months. I feel that once you have been cleared there shouldn't be any problem in getting a second one or more if wanted.
A bigger problem is the Republican are taking over the Senate. They are looking at putting in as the Majority leader that is ain't gun. The Senator is from Texas. have and we all need to write our Senator and protest that possibilites that's there isn't a ain't firearm person put into that position. So we have to watch both sides at the same time.
Mike Matteson
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In California you can't even have one.
epoletna
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Don't get me started on CA. OTOH, the political winds are shifting. That shift might even reach as far west as CA, especially if the lights won't come on this summer.
cohunt
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Kinda off topic but not really--- my fear over the next 4 years is in a round about way- the assassination attempts.....there have already been 2 on T, if they continue I fear that will be used to try to take away all firearms (starting with the "bad/evil" ones first of course)
QuietTexan
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The thing I'd be in the market for would be 2- and 3- round burst on PCCs. Something like an HK MP5K or if they'd release the MP7 would be an ideal backpack gun for self-defense.
But it would also be an extremely effective and concealable offensive weapon, which loops around to the main point of the 1934 law - it specifically targeted at the Chicago Typewriter. There's nothing new under the sun. Ultimately the original law wasn't about "banning" (although you could look at the 1986 closing of the registry to argue intent has morphed over 90 years), but rather stacking charges on criminals caught doing bad things to get easier convictions, to lock them up longer.
If guns are such a detriment to our communities, why don't we all agree on a mandatory 10 year minimum sentence for any violent felon caught with a gun? No cash bail, no pre-trial release, no parole, just "here's your prize" and ten years in a cell. Betcha we could cut the murder rate in Chicago by 95% simply enforcing the laws already on the books and locking the revolving door for a decade.
If I were the DA I wouldn't charge gangbangers with murder. I would go after all the petty minor crap sitting on their rap sheets until I got them in a cell, then I would start charging them with the heavy duty stuff. Shouldn't take more than a week to get a conviction on "felon with a gun" or 19th iteration of "possession with intent to distribute", that evidence is simple and easy for juries to understand. Once they're locked up, they can enjoy the 12-month lead up to a month long murder trial sitting in a jail cell and not partying it up on the streets.
If the east end of the spectrum could get over their identity politics focus on racial demographics in jail cells for a year, I'd be the first in line to help them clean up the streets in South Chicago. I don't like the idea of gangs running around with illegal automatics anymore than the citizens that live there do. But the pols and .gov workers care more about not arresting too many people with the wrong skin color to focus on who exactly is committing crimes in that area.
If race is such a huge deal, I know some places that there are plenty of meth heads that they can come round up to balance out the statistics. Again, it's not a mystery who these people are. It's a lack of focus from leadership (well, from failed psuedo-"leaders" aka power hungry pols). Normal people across this country know who the criminals are.
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Nimrod
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Hard to get anything done with an attitude like that. I do agree that we should pick our battles but that's one we need to fight, there are so many reasons the NFA should be nullified it's ridiculous.
Good for you, I wish more parents were that way. I'm not a proponent of beating kids into submission (my mother was a big fan) but so many are coddled into worthlessness it's pathetic. I also think in most cases parents should be held accountable for the crimes of their minor children, along with the kids of course.
