Asking for a Friend! 🙂

I read through the problem twice and I'm pretty sure the following isn't going to help but here goes anyway. I just bought a Remington Model 783 .308 heavy barrel. Note - Remington isn't Remington anymore, but it shoots and it serves my purpose (prefit barrels work). I used David Tubb's final finish bullets on it after cleaning it the first time. I'm not sure breaking it in "normally" wouldn't have worked just as well but the end result, ie before / after borescope checks, the final finish system sure made a difference. It shoots good for a stubby little barrel and it's a lot easier to clean.
I agree: the FF bullets are awesome!
 
A bore scope performed by someone who knows what to look for would be interesting.
And keep the investigation going, you never asked for a fix, you already know that answer, you're wanting to know why.
A bore scope would let you know if some Bubba put a reamer in there to remove a stuck case and moved the throat to the left, or the rifle has no throat/free-bore at all.
There are some good fiberoptic digital one online for 100 bucks
 
I agree: the FF bullets are awesome!

The irony for me was that I intended to replace the .308 barrel with an 8.6BLK, 6 twist prefit barrel. Now that I have run the FF bullets through the .308 and loaded some suppressed rounds for it I don't want to change the barrel. If I can get a little better ES out of the subs I think the stubby little thing is going to shoot pretty well and it is very quiet. There's a fairly old "recommended" sub load for .308 that involves drilling the primer pocket out to 9/64" (going off of memory) and I haven't tried that yet. I'll probably drill a few out and see if that helps the ES.
 
I had a Savage that would pressure up way early, scoping it was a mistake, if a guy were to get nightmares from a barrel this one would do it. The roughest bore I have ever seen, so rough that there were still rings from the dull drill dragging chips through it on top of the lands after the button got yanked through it. The grooves were sickening, deep rings from the drill dragging chips through all the way down the bore. There were also snake like impressions on top of the lands and in the grooves where the button ran over chips in the bore when it was rifled. The snakes in the grooves is apparent on another savage barrel I have also but that one shoots fine, go figure. I guess blasting the oil and chips out of the bore for two seconds before rifling is too hard so these two got the buttons dragged through a dirty barrel. Long story short, it's downright garbage, send it down the road or rebarrel with something better than the sewer pipe that came on it.
 
I had a Savage that would pressure up way early, scoping it was a mistake, if a guy were to get nightmares from a barrel this one would do it. The roughest bore I have ever seen, so rough that there were still rings from the dull drill dragging chips through it on top of the lands after the button got yanked through it. The grooves were sickening, deep rings from the drill dragging chips through all the way down the bore. There were also snake like impressions on top of the lands and in the grooves where the button ran over chips in the bore when it was rifled. The snakes in the grooves is apparent on another savage barrel I have also but that one shoots fine, go figure. I guess blasting the oil and chips out of the bore for two seconds before rifling is too hard so these two got the buttons dragged through a dirty barrel. Long story short, it's downright garbage, send it down the road or rebarrel with something better than the sewer pipe that came on it.
Sounds like a Faxon barrel...
 
Fixed doesn't answer the questions. 😉 Inquiring Minds ya know.😁

I'll see if he chrono'd it! memtb

He only chrono's after he develops a load……he hasn't gotten there yet!

I, through my "persuasive powers", may have convinced him to alter his loading/testing sequence of events! Awaiting results! memtb
 
HSmithTX, I'm pretty certain that ultimately, that will happen.

But, the "forensics analyst" that lies deep within me/ us is searching for answers!

Wow, I repeatedly impress myself with my use of the English language and my plentiful "witticisms"! A couple of months of rehab has reinvigorated! memtb
 
HSmithTX, I'm pretty certain that ultimately, that will happen.

But, the "forensics analyst" that lies deep within me/ us is searching for answers!

Wow, I repeatedly impress myself with my use of the English language and my plentiful "witticisms"! A couple of months of rehab has reinvigorated! memtb
You will reach the pinnacle of mastery of the English language when you use "whilst" in a sentence. For instance - Whilst we wait for the friend to use his chronograph at the appropriate time we would gladly watch a video of you running the 100 yard dash.
 
Call Savage. Tell them what you've found. Send it back. That's the easiest and cheapest fix if they put a new barrel on it.

It's undersize in the back causing pressure. It is larger in the front causing poor accuracy.

Out of curiosity, how many rounds down the barrel?
 
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Call Savage. Tell them what you've found. Send it back. That's the easiest and cheapest fix if they put a new barrel on it.

It's undersize in the back causing pressure. It is larger in the front causing poor accuracy.

Out of curiosity, how many rounds down the barrel?

More slugging, this time from the muzzle end - indicates the bore may be the same end to end! 🤷‍♂️

Not many rounds downrange. It was given to him by a friend that was having similar accuracy issues. The 50 grainers hitting sideways @ 100 is a new anomaly! memtb
 
It is not necessarily bullet weight, but length that matters as far as twist. Now, "generally" heavier bullets are longer, than lighter. However a 55gr flat base soft point, will be shorter than a 50 Hollow Point Boat tail. Hence why the 50 keyhole and 55 did not. I am guessing it is a 1:14 twist?
 
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