I'm a Hoyt guy, they have a couple newer ones.
I know this is old but I'm glad to see a few more 80s on the shelves these days. I'm a bit limited by my 31-31.5" draw length, so it is difficult to find both long draw and 80# new bows.
I still rock an old bowtech CPXL coming in at 82#. I love those cam designs for yoke tuning but i'm not a speed chaser. my elk arrows were 640gr and with 200gr heads those same arrows come in at 720gr. I shoot the 640s at around 275fps IIRC. haven't chrono'd the 720gr version.
I just got back from south africa this week where i shot a cape buffalo and eland with the cpxl. the buff took the arrow in the shoulder and buried to the fletchings, it zipped straight through the eland. I have both shots on video i will eventually post somewhere. I was using iron will 200gr single bevel "buff" heads (no bleeders).
For arrows that spine out correctly there are not many. I use gold tip kinetic kaos .200s. 100gr inserts, footers, and IWs. they're tough as nails. There are a few on the market now, black eagle has some .150s, and there are some newer arrow companies out with stiff arrows, but i haven't been checking into the latest and greatest stuff for a while.
Every couple of years i will wander into a shop with my bow, shoot a couple of the new ones, shoot mine, then pack mine up and go home. I haven't found enough difference in shootability or technology to justify retiring the old cpxl yet; nor for paying new prices on flagship models.
cape buff shoulder at impact:
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Its actually not that bad365 fps at 100 lbs is gonna be a FUN draw, holy cow!
Whats your draw length?Its actually not that bad
I tried one this spring and the draw cycle was way better than a pse omen cam
Soon as my local bow store gets my 80lb mods in I'll let you know what mine does with 425 grain arrows. BUUUUT, my wingspan is a little more than yours , so I'm gonna pick up a little moreI have the lift 33 80lbs with 85% let off. I'm shooting 28 1/2 draw and 515gn arrows at 282. On my garmin sight I can get out to 90 yards without having to dial anything. Be interesting to see what I could get to with like maybe a 420-430 gn arrow
For your DL, and that weight arrow, I'd call that a great speed.28 1/2 draw and 515gn arrows at 282.
I was happy with that. It's whisper quiet with that heavy of an arrowFor your DL, and that weight arrow, I'd call that a great speed.
With my 31.5" DL, I'm guessing that the 425 grn arrow will be around 320 fps. Just a guess.
It's been a long time since Mathews has impressed me with a bow. Today that changed.With my 31.5" DL, I'm guessing that the 425 grn arrow will be around 320 fps. Just a guess
Look for roughly 1 fps for every 3 grains of arrow weight, either direction. At 425 grains I'd put you right around 310-315 fps. 615 grains would put you around 250 fps. Look for around 2 fps per pound of draw weight, drop 70 # mods in your bow and your 515 grain arrow would be flying around 260 fps. My Phase 4 33 at 70 pounds and 28.5" draw is shooting exactly 280 fps with a 437 grain arrow, when I tested the Lift 33 at 70 and 28.5 draw with my arrows it was 5-7 fps faster, that was on launch day for the bow so long enough ago that I don't remember exactly. The Lift is a sweet bow.I have the lift 33 80lbs with 85% let off. I'm shooting 28 1/2 draw and 515gn arrows at 282. On my garmin sight I can get out to 90 yards without having to dial anything. Be interesting to see what I could get to with like maybe a 420-430 gn arrow