Can Someone Please Explain The Attraction Of Hunting Fenced Animals?

Blasphemy....
Watch what ya say..
The hall monitors will get ya.....
There is no such thing as "free range beef". The land they "free range" on is fenced. I hunted King Ranch, technically, like every place in Texas is Fenced. 800,000 acres. Now, when you say fence, you have to definie it. There is low fence, high fence, hog fence, 5 strand fence....NOT all fences are created equal, nor do they perform the same function.
BTW, in previous posts, I called some of my activities as "harvesting" and some as "hunting".
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"Free Range Beef"...sure..I've seen many of escaped cattle feeding "on the wild side's of a private fence.....
So in 'actuality'......if private lands are fenced..and there are animals on the outside....they are still fenced in...by somebody else's fences......

SO EVERY ANIMAL IS FENCED......
 
A 5000 acre high fence property is just under 8 sq/mi. That is a lot of terrain to move and hide in. I bet most couldn't cover all that terrain in a week of hiking.

I remember reading about a 2500 acre high fence WT property in Michigan called the "Sanctuary". They had deer in there they had never laid eyes on. These deer are truly wild, born wild and live free. Not pen raised.
Are most fenced ranches and properties in the US vehicle accessible or do you usually have to do it all on foot? I believe I read somewhere that most/many African fenced game ranches are crisscrossed by roads, enabling their clients to locate animals more easily. I assume that shooting them from a vehicle, though, is not a standard practice?
 
Are most fenced ranches and properties in the US vehicle accessible or do you usually have to do it all on foot? I believe I read somewhere that most/many African fenced game ranches are crisscrossed by roads, enabling their clients to locate animals more easily. I assume that shooting them from a vehicle, though, is not a standard practice?
I have been on a couple of large hunting ranches in Africa. Yes there are roads and, at least the ones I have been on, you drive to the general area, but you still have to get out on foot, look for tracks, glass, find, stalk. It is still hunting...my opinion and experience
 
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I have been on a couple of large hunring ranches in Africa. Yes there are roads and, at least the ones I have been on, you drive to the general area, but you still have to get out on foot, look for tracks, glass, find, stalk. It is still hunting...my opinion and experience
Thanks.
 
The appeal to me: if it
Just wondering the appeal of hunting an animal that, in the final analysis, and if you`re persistent enough, can`t escape. Or at least it seems that way to me. Then again, in the interest of honesty, I`ve never done it. Closest thing to that I`ve done is " hunting" put, pen raised quail. Did it only once. Felt like shooting chickens. One guy actually beat one to death with his cap!
They taste good :)
 
How much butchered meat can I expect to get out of one of those guys? I've been itching to kill something big with my .223 & 77TMK. :D

It has been my life experience that what an animal eats changes their flavor. Age determines how tough the meat is. So if I'm after western antelope and deer I get the ones eating in the alfalfa field. I don't go after the one with the big rack and so old that it doesn't have any teeth.

I would definately say that those old rams with the big rack have to be some of the least desirable meat that I have ever tasted. So they kind of get turned into blends with beef and pork. You get about 50% from the on the hoof weight which could be 250 lbs.
 
I have a close friend that had what most on here find a not so desirable high fence hunting ranch. This was back in the late 90s early 2000. In Pennsylvania near Gettysburg. I hung around his son, partying chasing girls. And there were times we would have to help his dad on this farm. It was around 30 acres. And only housed a few types of animals at a time. Some people just want to kill a certain type of animal. Perhaps bragging rights ? Less work & cheaper in the long run ? Or perhaps the only way they would be able to hunt such a critter ? I never asked. Not exactly good business practice. And not really sure why my buddy dad got into this at the time. I will ask him. But my guess would be the money. Because he went all over the US & Canada & did his hunting. The clientele seemed to be a lot of city folk with money.
 
I have hunted South Africa, and all those places are high fence, but the concession is so large, you only see the fence when you come into the front gate. Poaching is a huge issue there, and that is one of the main reasons for the fences. At no time did I ever feel we were hunting caged animals, and Africa is an experience I hope all of you get to experience at least once.

Now, on to high fence closer to home. Am I against HF here in the states? Not at all. If that is what someone wants to pay for in a hunting experience, then I support them in that endeavor. What bothers me is when they show pictures, or display the mount, and are not forth coming it was high fence. Why the deception and lies? If it was good enough for you to hunt a HF, then you should be willing to come out with that information when discussing the hunt. I have a good buddy that hunted a HF in Canada. He will say immediately that his 202" deer was from a HF, and then he will tell you how long he hunted, how many he passed, and when this deer stepped out it surprised he and the guide, as the deer had not been seen on camera or in person.

I see HF as a good thing for our hunting world. There are people that are physically not able to hike 30 miles for an opportunity at an elk or other big game animal. Also time. I spend LOTS of time working the land, cutting, tilling, planting food plots, spraying for weeds and insects, building stands and scouting. I do this on 4 farms, and only one is within 15 min of my house. Two are 2 plus hours away, and the other is 16 hours away in Illinois. I invest A LOT of time and money into these properties each year. If I put a dollar amount on my time, and added the actual cost of travel and dollars spent on the land, taxes, equipment, fuel, seed, fertilizer, implements and maintenance, I would many times ahead to just pay for one or two HF hunts a year. Why do I not do that? (wife asks me this a lot). Because I enjoy the build up to the hunt, and the work that goes into it, to have the opportunity to know there is a big deer or bear on my lands. Harvesting that animal is way down my list of importance. I love knowing that my work and vision equated into the hunting paradise I have the honor to sit and watch whenever I want to go. Even better, I know I can take a kid on their first hunt and they will see 50-150 deer, lots of turkeys, maybe a bob cat and certainly a coyote. On my eastern NC farms, they will see deer, turkey and bears. Lots and lots of bears, and in most hunts, have a bear up close and personal walking around the blind or even looking in the shooting window.

My father is getting older, as we all are, and he loves to hunt. He loves the experience of being out there in the woods seeing animals. At this point, he is still mobile, but I do all the heavy listing on the properties for getting them ready to hunt each year. I don't have sons, I have daughters and while I may get a son in law that will have the same love of the outdoors as me, there is no guarantee of that or if he would live close by. So, if at some point I am not able to continue the work to keep my properties how I want them, I am comforted to know that there may be a HF property within an 8 hour drive of NC that could cater to me, and put me in a nice blind where I can watch and possible harvest a nice deer in my later years.

As stated earlier by another member, we as a group need to stay united on the big picture. We support hunting and shooting and ALL 2A rights. If other members are enjoying that activity, and enjoying it in a legal way, support them and keep us united. There is way to much division in this country already without us bickering about the stupid stuff. In the end, we are all just "a peckerwood who lives in the hills with too many guns." Bob Lee Swagger.
 
I have a close friend that had what most on here find a not so desirable high fence hunting ranch. This was back in the late 90s early 2000. In Pennsylvania near Gettysburg. I hung around his son, partying chasing girls. And there were times we would have to help his dad on this farm. It was around 30 acres. And only housed a few types of animals at a time. Some people just want to kill a certain type of animal. Perhaps bragging rights ? Less work & cheaper in the long run ? Or perhaps the only way they would be able to hunt such a critter ? I never asked. Not exactly good business practice. And not really sure why my buddy dad got into this at the time. I will ask him. But my guess would be the money. Because he went all over the US & Canada & did his hunting. The clientele seemed to be a lot of city folk with money.
Just me, but as described, I don`t equate this with " hunting ". That`s just killing.
 
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