Bore cleaner reacting with cases?

Varmint Hunter said:
Once the barrel is clean and the bore guide is removed, I wrap a piece of paper towel around a bore mop of appropriate size and clean/dry the chamber. The paper towel can be twisted off the end of the mop to form a pointed end which has good reach into the chamber neck. Lastly, with a new piece of paper towel on the mop, I add a bit of lighter fluid and swab the chamber to remove any residual oil that the dry paper towel may have left behind.

This is really a very fast and easy procedure once you are accustomed to doing it. Using a really short rod (12" or so) will make it even easier.
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Amazing all the workarounds we develop to solve these issues
 
stiff neck said:
Take pecautions to prevent stuff like this, it's well worth it. Why wouldn't you swab the chamber every single time after cleaning with solvents? At a minimum, remove the bore guide and twirl a patch wet with alcohol or brake cleaner etc down the chamber/neck to neutralize/flush out the solvents? Followed by a dry pach.
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Yep. I agree. I should have known better. Lesson learned. I won't repeat it. Still, I'm not taking anything that dissolves copper to the range.
 
Not everyone even thinks to completely dry out a chamber after bore cleaning. A shooting buddy (who doesn't reload) experienced excess pressure on loads that should not have caused any issues. When I looked at the brass, I immediately noticed that the brass was oily. I asked him how the brass got that way and he said that he oiled the bore and chamber after cleaning. :rolleyes:
 
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I use a small bucket to collect fired brass at the range. One day I was breaking in a new barrel and cleaning the barrel at the range. BoreTech Eliminator. Tossed the dirty patches soaked with BoreTech Eliminator in the brass bucket. Brass looked ugly quick where the patches touched the brass. Never did that again.
 
MarkInPA said:
Just thought I would mention something. I was shooting Saturday morning. Shooting five shot groups and then cleaning the bore in between groupings. I was using Bore Tech Eliminator which I believe does have some copper solvent in it. It's not supposed to have any ammonia, but it must have something that attacks the copper. Anyhow, when I got home and looked at my brass, it felt like there was something on them and it sort of looked like the casings were etched. I think some of the cleaner made its way around the bore guide and got into the chamber and then made its way onto the cases. This is something I didn't really consider. Not only is this not good for the brass but, it could turn into a safety issue. I was taught not to have any excessive lubricant in the bore or chamber as it could cause pressure issues. Lesson learned. I think next time I will be sure to swab out the chamber with a chamber mop and make sure it is dry. Just sharing for whatever it is worth.
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I always flush out the chamber with carb or brake cleaner after cleaning with any solvent and then run another patch through. Then a patch with oil if it will be sitting a while.
 
Bore mop on a Sinclair/s action cleaning kit handle (basically a long screwdriver with a threaded end). Also take that opportunity to use the wool felt tool in the same kit and clean the lug recesses and action rails before lubing.

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we are all talking about Bore Tech Eliminator here. Does anyone follow up with Bore Tech Copper? I did it once or twice but eliminator also says it removes copper and after swabs and brushing patches come out pretty clean. I was wondering when or if I need to use their copper product.
 
You know, alot of this was my own stupid fault. It was just me being dumb. However, I have to question if all these copper solvents are necessary. They don't react well to the items we are using. They will eat away at bullets, brass casings, cleaning jags, bronze brushes, and cleaning rods. Not to mention what it could do to finishes on gun stocks or anything else it comes in contact with. Let's not forget that some of this stuff is not supposed to be left in the barrel for any length of time. Is it absolutely necessary to strip every last bit of copper out of the bore? At least after every range trip? I know there are some who will argue that a little copper is actually beneficial. I have watched the old guy on Gunblue 490 and all he uses is old fashioned Hoppes #9. I'm no expert and I try to listen to others to learn but, I got to question this. Maybe this stuff is better reserved for when accuracy drops off and you need to do a deep cleaning. I'm probably opening up a hornet's nest here but, I would like to hear what people think. Am I making any sense at all?
 
MarkInPA said:
You know, alot of this was my own stupid fault. It was just me being dumb. However, I have to question if all these copper solvents are necessary. They don't react well to the items we are using. They will eat away at bullets, brass casings, cleaning jags, bronze brushes, and cleaning rods. Not to mention what it could do to finishes on gun stocks or anything else it comes in contact with. Let's not forget that some of this stuff is not supposed to be left in the barrel for any length of time. Is it absolutely necessary to strip every last bit of copper out of the bore? At least after every range trip? I know there are some who will argue that a little copper is actually beneficial. I have watched the old guy on Gunblue 490 and all he uses is old fashioned Hoppes #9. I'm no expert and I try to listen to others to learn but, I got to question this. Maybe this stuff is better reserved for when accuracy drops off and you need to do a deep cleaning. I'm probably opening up a hornet's nest here but, I would like to hear what people think. Am I making any sense at all?
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I use the foaming bore cleaners to get away from that worry. And they still get it clean in the borescopes.
 
MarkInPA said:
I have watched the old guy on Gunblue 490 and all he uses is old fashioned Hoppes #9.
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Get a borescope and look for yourself if you don't believe actual experts. Anyone who only uses Hoppes #9 isn't the guy I'd be taking advice from regarding precision rifles, accuracy, or long range.
 
The bore scope is a great tool. It really lets you know that even if you think you have everything perfectly clean, you probably missed some area. It's a wonder I did not have more problems in the many years I did not have one. In my latest cleaning session, I had to scope it multiple times to find all the hidden stuff in the chamber and the bore.
 
Here is a question for all of you. Fas anyone ever used Outers Foul out electrical chemical bore cleaner. I have one and used it years ago. i was always afraid it would damage the barrel so haven't used it in decades. Seemed to do a good job though. The rod got covered with copper.
 

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