Good 12 ga shotgun?

One morning on a panhandle goose hunt, wind chill -34, first bunch came in and we all sat up to shoot...three of us with Benelli SBEs all got off second and third shots, all the Berettas and Brownings were single shots, gas system frozen. That being said, the advantage of 3 1/2" shells is minimized when you don't have the gun snugged up to your shoulder and punch yourself in the nose
Like I said, you have to learn them, especially in wet, freezing weather. You will have a single shot in these conditions with ANY gas gun, or a lubed up Benelli if you don't prepare it properly. I have had good luck with all of them using CLP. Trick is to get the gun clean, lube it, then wipe off all the lube you can with paper towels. I mean all of it. There will be enough left in the pores of the metal for the gun to run if you use it all the time and nothing else. Sorry, but the SBE is no more reliable than the others if they are all prepared properly for the conditions you are hunting in. They do kick more if you are into that. I've had three 12ga SBE's that are now gone and have a 28ga SBE that is going to find a new home. That thing kicks worse with 3" 28ga shells than my SX4 with 3-1/2" shells.
 
Looking for a new 12 ga for marylands waterfowl season planning on shooting duck and goose with some dove hunting as well, one that I'm looking at right now is the benelli m2, I don't love the new forend they put on there so I'd be looking for an old one, are they reliable or durable guns ?
I've got a Benelli Vinci. It has worked flawlessly. Recoil is heavier than the Remington versamax I had but it is noticeably lighter so that's no surprise.
 
I'm looking as well and hope it's ok to though in my question here since it seems to fit the discussion.

I noticed the SX4 wasn't really recommended. That's what I've been thinking of getting. Any comments? I'm looking for a gas gun and around $1K or less. It would be for everything shotgun.
 
I'm looking as well and hope it's ok to though in my question here since it seems to fit the discussion.

I noticed the SX4 wasn't really recommended. That's what I've been thinking of getting. Any comments? I'm looking for a gas gun and around $1K or less. It would be for everything shotgun.
I recommended it. I have two of them and my daughter shoots one. It is the same gun as the Browning without the magazine cut off. It has a // stock, which I prefer. What is your question.
 
I'm looking as well and hope it's ok to though in my question here since it seems to fit the discussion.

I noticed the SX4 wasn't really recommended. That's what I've been thinking of getting. Any comments? I'm looking for a gas gun and around $1K or less. It would be for everything shotgun.
I had a sx4 and loved it other than poi was way in left field and no shims available to adjust. Franchi affinity is a great gun in your price range.
Edit: apparently the newer production sx4's come with shims
 
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BPS if you can find one. Not the field grade either. Smooth action, and bottom dump. 870 stift action. It takes sometime to brake in. Fixable in the field, wher
 
I love my Benelli's! I have two M2's, ultralight and a super nova. I suggest going to you local gun store, throw them all up to your shoulder and pick the me that fits you best. For new it's the Benelli's that fit me best so I shoot them best.
 
Speaking of shim kits. Lots of folks don't know how to use them properly. You will need a pattern board and a table to work on the gun with. Go to a pattern board at about 20yds and use a full choke. Look at the dot you put on the board. shoulder the gun and fire it as quickly as possible without looking down the barrel or the bead. Do this three times to get an average POI. This is where you are looking. Adjust the rear of the stock the opposite way of the problem, just like open sights. You want the pattern centered, or a little high. You cannot adjust it at home looking down the barrel.
 
Very difficult to beat a Benelli or Beretta.
I would just say Beretta, if you have $2000 for an O/U. My wife's A300 (semiautomatic) works flawlessly, and was about $1200. But, again, they are hard to find.
I would never buy another Benelli. I hate the buttons and way the action works because it is so illogical. It is difficult to empty the magazine at the end of a hunt.
 
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