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<blockquote data-quote="ENCORE" data-source="post: 1530693" data-attributes="member: 33046"><p>I shoot long range. I understand shooting long range. I use wind meters and use ballistics programs to provide me information required, including bullet energy at any given range. At times I shoot 2,000 rounds a year, strictly muzzleloader and long range. I just finished up another 5#'s of propellant that lasted 2 1/2 <u>months</u>.</p><p>Now I'm going to give you my opinion about the fella that is killing deer at 350 and 400yds with a flint...…. but <u>you say a lighter bullet than even what you're shooting</u>. That fella is pulling your leg, or he has no concept of range. Now if you would have stated that he was shooting a 450gr, a 500gr, or even heavier bullet, that's doable by someone well versed in long range shooting. However with a bullet lighter than 250grs, that's more tale than reality.</p><p>Now for the Remington Ultimate and 800yd kills. The Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader (RUM), was modeled after the rifle I shoot, the actual Ultimate Muzzleloader Inc., BP Xpress. The RUM is its little brother.</p><p>The RUM by itself is not an 800yd hunting rifle and certainly not with the supplied/recommended bullets. Anyone harvesting an animal at 800yds with a stock Remington Ultimate **** well better buy a lottery ticket. Even with the highest ballistic coefficient bullets at over $2 each and shooting maximum charges of substitute propellant at 2,400fps, although it is possible, there are extremely few hunters capable of accurate hunting shots at 800yds. Now..... if the rifle was converted to a .45cal and with a smokeless <strong>RATED</strong> barrel, using smokeless propellant, or extreme charges of BH209 with high BC bullets, its possible but only by the most seasoned shooters. ANYONE who thinks shooting 800yds is easy with a muzzleloader, is either a VERY well seasoned target shooter, or nuts. Even a 3mph will deflect the best bullet over 30".</p><p>I'm not attempting to say that you don't have an accurate rifle. However your rifle has its limits. I suggest you do more research on long range muzzleloader shooting, download and learn to use one of the free ballistic software programs.</p><p>Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ENCORE, post: 1530693, member: 33046"] I shoot long range. I understand shooting long range. I use wind meters and use ballistics programs to provide me information required, including bullet energy at any given range. At times I shoot 2,000 rounds a year, strictly muzzleloader and long range. I just finished up another 5#'s of propellant that lasted 2 1/2 [U]months[/U]. Now I'm going to give you my opinion about the fella that is killing deer at 350 and 400yds with a flint...…. but [U]you say a lighter bullet than even what you're shooting[/U]. That fella is pulling your leg, or he has no concept of range. Now if you would have stated that he was shooting a 450gr, a 500gr, or even heavier bullet, that's doable by someone well versed in long range shooting. However with a bullet lighter than 250grs, that's more tale than reality. Now for the Remington Ultimate and 800yd kills. The Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader (RUM), was modeled after the rifle I shoot, the actual Ultimate Muzzleloader Inc., BP Xpress. The RUM is its little brother. The RUM by itself is not an 800yd hunting rifle and certainly not with the supplied/recommended bullets. Anyone harvesting an animal at 800yds with a stock Remington Ultimate **** well better buy a lottery ticket. Even with the highest ballistic coefficient bullets at over $2 each and shooting maximum charges of substitute propellant at 2,400fps, although it is possible, there are extremely few hunters capable of accurate hunting shots at 800yds. Now..... if the rifle was converted to a .45cal and with a smokeless [B]RATED[/B] barrel, using smokeless propellant, or extreme charges of BH209 with high BC bullets, its possible but only by the most seasoned shooters. ANYONE who thinks shooting 800yds is easy with a muzzleloader, is either a VERY well seasoned target shooter, or nuts. Even a 3mph will deflect the best bullet over 30". I'm not attempting to say that you don't have an accurate rifle. However your rifle has its limits. I suggest you do more research on long range muzzleloader shooting, download and learn to use one of the free ballistic software programs. Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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