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Muzzleloader Hunting
Motivation for ML hunting restrictions
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<blockquote data-quote="chav0_12" data-source="post: 2859492" data-attributes="member: 29765"><p>Then even the 1x scope increases your effective range from 0 to whatever it would be. I think it's unfortunate for guys like you that have a need for enhanced optics, but I don't think they were trying to exclude you. </p><p></p><p>I've shot plenty of iron sighted rifles. I've shot the same or similar rifles with optics. An M4 with something like an EOTECH compared to an M4 with irons is much easier to plate targets and more range because of the reticle. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I totally agree with that, I said that yes bullets and trajectories play roles in a weapon systems range. The optics play a role in the shooters effective range. They probably did this because they probably figured enough people have muzzleloaders with longer range capabilities. Instead of saying "you can't use that" they simply said; "you can use that rifle, but take the scope off". I get the argument, I do. it's seems odd to me that people, especially in western states where tags can be difficult to get don't see why they did it. They either had to reduce the opportunity or reduce the effectiveness of hunters. I assume that, since there is a lot of complaining about how hard it is to get tags they didn't want to reduce opportunity. Perhaps they didn't feel they needed to reduce the effectiveness so much that they went full traditional muzzleloader, but just enough that they felt taking optics away was the best choice. </p><p></p><p>Game agencies have a hard job to keep people happy, they will never be able to keep everyone happy. If they would've just reduced the number of tags by half, there would be just as much complaining but about that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chav0_12, post: 2859492, member: 29765"] Then even the 1x scope increases your effective range from 0 to whatever it would be. I think it’s unfortunate for guys like you that have a need for enhanced optics, but I don’t think they were trying to exclude you. I’ve shot plenty of iron sighted rifles. I’ve shot the same or similar rifles with optics. An M4 with something like an EOTECH compared to an M4 with irons is much easier to plate targets and more range because of the reticle. I totally agree with that, I said that yes bullets and trajectories play roles in a weapon systems range. The optics play a role in the shooters effective range. They probably did this because they probably figured enough people have muzzleloaders with longer range capabilities. Instead of saying “you can’t use that” they simply said; “you can use that rifle, but take the scope off”. I get the argument, I do. it’s seems odd to me that people, especially in western states where tags can be difficult to get don’t see why they did it. They either had to reduce the opportunity or reduce the effectiveness of hunters. I assume that, since there is a lot of complaining about how hard it is to get tags they didn’t want to reduce opportunity. Perhaps they didn’t feel they needed to reduce the effectiveness so much that they went full traditional muzzleloader, but just enough that they felt taking optics away was the best choice. Game agencies have a hard job to keep people happy, they will never be able to keep everyone happy. If they would’ve just reduced the number of tags by half, there would be just as much complaining but about that. [/QUOTE]
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